tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post7918281341998533793..comments2024-03-29T09:34:59.827+03:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Weiss Dodelson: Background on the siruv from Machon LehoraDaas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-42139111537931710802013-11-29T07:17:13.886+02:002013-11-29T07:17:13.886+02:00I am horrified by all of the loshon harah here. As...I am horrified by all of the loshon harah here. As a talmid of Yeshiva Staten Island, I cannot believe that any frum person would have the audacity to lobby donors to cease funding a yeshivah. The ends surely do not justify the means, and I recommend that all sides make a serious cheshbon hanefesh before continuing the mudslinging and backstabbing. As much as I am intolerant of people who use a get as a bargaining chip, the so called "agunah" is very different than the true agunah with no husband or get in sight. By making certain demands against a husband who really had nothing going for him other than the bargaining chip of the get, she had to be foolish to think that he wouldn't use it against her. Not that this is whitewashing the actions, but she is not this innocent girl all bound up in chains. She has a very bright future as a spinmeister for any major media company. My heart goes out to all parties caught up in this horrific Chilul H-shem. My suggestion: Daven that we should never be a party or witness to such a Chilul H-shem again, and may H-shem bring Shalom to everyone in the world. Also, please stop posting these ridiculous comments ridiculing frum people, Rabbanim, and the like. Talmidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-10974160619998444562013-11-27T08:07:33.056+02:002013-11-27T08:07:33.056+02:00Of course it is. I want to know (call it perverse...Of course it is. I want to know (call it perverse curiosity) what pilpul Rabbi Doctor Daniel Eidensohn uses to justify publishing this.Yitz Waxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09626409388081098891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-69136163216717803952013-11-27T00:52:27.922+02:002013-11-27T00:52:27.922+02:00Why isn't this post pure unvarnished Lashon Ho...Why isn't this post pure unvarnished Lashon Hora (or Motzi Shem Ra) that we are not permitted to believe?Papperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07814174691583659408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-82205836320344703012013-11-26T20:26:54.399+02:002013-11-26T20:26:54.399+02:00Yitz,
To negate a borare you must prove that the p...Yitz,<br />To negate a borare you must prove that the person is unfit for the task. What exactly is wrong with Rav Gestetner so that some botei dinim don't like him? I have asked various Beth Dins and nobody ever answered me that point. Again, the right to choose a borare is a basic Torah right. To take away that right you must prove that the Torah, not botei dinim, reject the person. So what is there about Rav Gestetner that the Torah rejects? I never heard anything specific other than foaming at the mouth from the Botei Dinim that reject him. Why don't you ask a Beth Din that rejects Rav Gestetner for the reason? Please let me know what it is?Dovid Eidensohnhttp://torahtimes.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-26460467109187550202013-11-26T20:21:45.001+02:002013-11-26T20:21:45.001+02:00Az,
A person who gives an opinion and backs it up...Az,<br />A person who gives an opinion and backs it up with his source is one thing. Signing a letter from somebody's cousin without hearing the other side is not rabbinics, it is mafia. Making mamzrerim without knowing the laws of gittin is a hideous crime and the people who do it don't deserve any respect at all. Again, the leading rabbis in the world have published their opinion that humiliating a husband with MOUS OLEI is forbidden, produces mamzerim and an invalid GET. Anyone who disagrees with Rav Chaim Kaniefsky, Rav Shmuel HaLevi Wosner, Rav Nissim Karelitz and his Beth Din and other major rabbonim, without providing a source for their opinion, is simply a friend of somebody's cousin and has no right to pasken that such and such must be done to break somebody they never spoke to.Dovid Eidensohnhttp://torahtimes.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-89258167603438970482013-11-26T03:04:00.649+02:002013-11-26T03:04:00.649+02:00Did he have children with his first wife? Who ret...Did he have children with his first wife? Who retained custody?Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-36410156575387819692013-11-26T02:36:44.151+02:002013-11-26T02:36:44.151+02:00So we are to believe that Rav Malkiel Kotler is wa...So we are to believe that Rav Malkiel Kotler is waging a battle against Avrohom Meir Weiss, because RMK's first wife was (is?) AMW's second cousin once removed.<br /><br />Right.Superintendant Chalmersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-80371178681160068352013-11-26T00:42:31.399+02:002013-11-26T00:42:31.399+02:00I cannot read this without saying a word for the h...I cannot read this without saying a word for the honor of the signators on the 'Kol Koreh'. These are not the same signators that signed against Lipa or are accused of enabling molesters or are accused of just knowing Gemara and not halacha. There are people signed to whom none of the above applies. Do your research.<br /><br />Even if you do feel that your accusations of bias and ignorance have merit, please use a modicum of respect as I'm sure any of the Feinsteins would.<br /><br />Rabbi Eidenson, of all people, should be aware of the many times in Teshuvos where Rav Moishe vehemently disagreed with people's positions, yet spoke with honor and respect. The issues of Eiruvin and Heter Mechira are the two that come to mind.aznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-8805355104248961732013-11-26T00:38:32.948+02:002013-11-26T00:38:32.948+02:00RaP: You provide good humor with your conspiracy t...RaP: You provide good humor with your conspiracy theories.<br /><br />Tell us, who REALLY killed JFK?Sanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-28426535868523648782013-11-26T00:36:50.536+02:002013-11-26T00:36:50.536+02:00You're also completely off-base about American...You're also completely off-base about American law. If a woman gets civilly divorced but not a religious Get, American law considers her to be divorced and if she remarries she's no bigamist. Ben Torahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-5112675153641783802013-11-26T00:35:18.854+02:002013-11-26T00:35:18.854+02:00You're wrong. Rav Ahron Schechter was instrume...You're wrong. Rav Ahron Schechter was instrumental in bringing Rav Dovid Feinstein into the Agudah's Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah. In fact, no one could join the Moetzes without Rav Ahron Schechter's approval.Ben Torahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-52129252956930012062013-11-25T23:34:18.335+02:002013-11-25T23:34:18.335+02:002 of 2:
5) Many scores are being settled here (co...2 of 2:<br /><br /><b>5) Many scores are being settled here (conscious or not) by the rabbis here that has NOTHING to do with Gital or her family. The rivalry between Briskers of Israel (and their connections to the Feinsteins) and the Aguda rabbis runs deep, and on top of that add in the rivalry for money, prestige and Torah leadership, between the Feinsteins and the Kotlers (two pre-eminent Litvish dynasties) on the family level even though in America the Feinsteins are the moderates of the Aguda, and of course the patriarch of the family was Rav Moshe Feinstein ZT"L, the acknowledged POSEK and GADOL HADOR, even Rav Aron Kotler ZT"L deferred to Rav Moshe Feinstein. <br /><br />6) But the younger generation of Kotlers has seen their yeshiva outpace the Feinteins' and they now wish to demolish what is left of the good name of the Feinsteins' professional-rivalry-turned-ugly with Rav Moshe Feinstein's legacy versus Rav Aron Kotler's. Now BMG and Lakewood are run like family-run corporate entities with the Kotler clan calling all the shots. This is a huge blundering behemoth that capitalizes on the notions imbued by its founder of "<i>Torah lishma</i>" that is so popular but when it goes awry, like now, it shows it's huge ugly side and failings. <br /><br />7) Real leadership of BMG and Lakewood still rests ONLY with R Shneur's widow Rebbetzin Rissel Kotler, and the money man is Malkiel younger brother named Aron who is the BMG CEO and functions like one. Rissel is very old and she may well be going senile if she is allowing this, and everyone knows that her son the CEO Aron Kotler is just an overgrown PUNK who was once basically an off-the-derech teen who drove his father nuts and who was finally "saved" by Rav Noach Weinberg of Aish HaTorah, and he is still VERY immature and a spoiled brat who is nothing like the naive "<i>Torah lishma</i>" crowd of sheep who inhabit BMG. Many have chafed under his tactics and rough-shod ways and there have been terrible rumors that have circulated about his way of life for years, but people in Lakewood fear for their lives and would never say a word. You can just see how ruthless and unprincipled he is from this whole dirty Dodelson saga. He is one of the "Lead point men" representing the Dodelsons. Maybe Gital's mother Saki Dodelson is the real CEO of Lakewood, after all she is the one with the real MBA from tel Aviv University and the Masters in technology from The Hebrew University in Jerusalem.</b> Recipients and Publicitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-52748542281802786792013-11-25T23:32:51.773+02:002013-11-25T23:32:51.773+02:001 of 2:
"I just wish to point out that over ...1 of 2:<br /><br /><b>"<i>I just wish to point out that over two years ago Rabbi Malkiel Kotler asked me how he can convince Machon Lehora to issue a siruv in this case. My response was, if a siruv is warranted why do you need my assistance, and if not why should I assist. His response, "ihr veist doch vee es geit" [my translation - "you know very well how things are done"]</i><br /><br />A few FACTS need to be remembered:<br /><br />1) Malkiel Kotler is STILL married to his first wife, the daughter of Rav Michel Feinstein of Bnai Brak. R Michel Feinstein was related to R. Moshe Feinstein. When Malkiel's father R Shneur passed away, Malkiel was called upon to take on the nominal leadership.<br /><br />2) But R Michel Feinstein was the son in law of the Soloveitchiks of Yerushalayim, thus when Malkiel married his first wife he agreed to live in Eretz Yisroel only. Something his first wife still holds him to and refuses to accept a get from him. The Aguda rabbis got involved and under Rav Shach they ordered Malkiel to go back to America and ignore his wife's demands. Malkiel begged and begged her to come to America but she stuck to her family's Brisker principles. No golus in America for her! It would be a terrible YERIDA and 100% against halacha as far as the Soloveitchiks are concerned.<br /><br />3) Back in America Malkiel was getting lonely so someone came up with the idea for him to start life with a new SECOND wife, and the only way he could do that was by getting a HETER MEAH RABBANIM to marry his second wife, which is what happened and what he did. All the rabbis of the Agudah danced at Malkiel's wedding to his SECOND wife, especially R. Aron Schechter, maybe because the new wife was a TIKOTZKY the daughter of one of Rav Hutner's (and Rav Aron Kotler) disciples. To this day Malkiel Kotler does NOT make a major move without the input of R. Aron Schechter, and in turn R Aron Schechter was labelled a <i>lo tzayis dino</i> by Rav MOSHE FEINSTEIN for not settling the din Torah that was brought by his yeshiva's fired mashgiach R Shlomo Carlebach (not the singer). This has been a huge halachic stigma against Aron Schechter since he took over and it would be his greatest pleasure to see the Feinsteins and their yeshivas and their prestige wiped off the map.<br /><br />4) In a nutshell, Malkiel Kotler is an official BIGAMIST according to American law. Add to this that the Dodelsons are also his family and big donors to BMG, he is in a big bind, and THAT IS THE PROBABLE REAL DEEPER MEANING OF HIS YIDDISH EXPRESSION used in the letter posted here.</b> Recipients and Publicitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-229948494807840382013-11-25T22:39:49.067+02:002013-11-25T22:39:49.067+02:00James: Hisachdus HaRabbonim, is one example.James: Hisachdus HaRabbonim, is one example.Columbusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-36582202746926725072013-11-25T22:24:31.265+02:002013-11-25T22:24:31.265+02:00It appears that Stan, for all of his railing about...It appears that Stan, for all of his railing about halacha and forced gittin, is actually not familiar with either Hebrew or Yiddish.<br /><br />This is just too absurd for words.Superintendant Chalmersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-79153225856419496472013-11-25T21:48:05.904+02:002013-11-25T21:48:05.904+02:00I have to agree with RDE (Dovid) on this one. Acc...I have to agree with RDE (Dovid) on this one. Accepting one witness for Davar Sheberva is relevant to the underlying issue of issur v'heter. We dont accept one witness speaking lashon hara that relates to davar sheberva.Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-28234359559166297122013-11-25T21:43:56.794+02:002013-11-25T21:43:56.794+02:00Columbus?
Name one. Name one BD that accepts him?...Columbus?<br />Name one. Name one BD that accepts him? Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-76840684360764490132013-11-25T21:41:58.375+02:002013-11-25T21:41:58.375+02:00Stan,
Do you wish to apologize for your baseless a...Stan,<br />Do you wish to apologize for your baseless accusation?Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-20759217844019722052013-11-25T21:29:20.392+02:002013-11-25T21:29:20.392+02:00um stan? It's not hebrew- it's yiddish!!!um stan? It's not hebrew- it's yiddish!!!dotonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-2921907003141711582013-11-25T19:44:40.564+02:002013-11-25T19:44:40.564+02:00Rabbi Gestener is accepted by butei dinim througho...Rabbi Gestener is accepted by butei dinim throughout the world with the only possiblee exceptions being Modern Orthodox and DL.Columbusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-61555716264403722082013-11-25T18:56:35.371+02:002013-11-25T18:56:35.371+02:00Aceive 3000 belongs to Dodelson? it is a multi mil...Aceive 3000 belongs to Dodelson? it is a multi million dollar educational software company with contracts with school systems all over the place. They cant repay Weiss for damages? You have to be kidding me. Now maybe we know why everyone is running to suppoe=rt the Dodelsons. How much $ do they give BMG a year? Any windows at Novominslk have their name on it? Whose paying Shira Dicker? Is he on Achieve 3000's payroll? No wonder they are steamrolling the Weisses, these people are very very wealthy. Check out www.acheive300.com I cant believe this information has been hidden out of sight until now. The truth will outnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-33479511012799008552013-11-25T18:36:27.463+02:002013-11-25T18:36:27.463+02:00Rabbosai, we need to organize the way the Dodelson...Rabbosai, we need to organize the way the Dodelsons are organized. They have a Shira Dicker waging war on behalf of the satan, we need to wage war l'sheim Kvod Shomayim v'Toraso! <br />I know Yosaif Asher Weiss. He finished shas before he was 18, not when they told him he could make the siyum at the siyum hashas like Malkiel Kotler. He is a Gaon, a baal middos, and a mentsch. he had a Yeshiva of his own before this, now he is ill, lost his Yeshiva, and broke close to bankruptcy with no job. HOW CAN THESE RABBONIM LOOK IN THE MIRROR!! Yisroel his brother has lived his life for everyone else but himself. He gave his life to the Yeshiva, to desperately ill friends, to family members in need, to chaveirim in terrible straits. NOW HE HAS NO JOB!!! HASHEM YERACHEIM!!! How can we sit still!! Pick up the phone and call these corrupt Rabbonim! Call R' Wachtfogel, call R' Shaechter, call R' Heinemann. This has to be exposed, this has to be stopped. Don't you know ivus hadin when you see it?Horrified and sickenednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-7312758559364504342013-11-25T18:19:10.539+02:002013-11-25T18:19:10.539+02:00IOW - you didn't answer the question. He wrot...IOW - you didn't answer the question. He wrote a foreword to an important sefer, thank you. Is he accepted by any bais din in the country or is he not accepted?Yitz Waxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09626409388081098891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-18144915183298653152013-11-25T18:17:01.142+02:002013-11-25T18:17:01.142+02:00So it sounds like you are confirming the Dodelson ...So it sounds like you are confirming the Dodelson claim that Weiss initially selected a Rabbi that was physically incapacitated. <br /><br />They also claim that the next Rabbi (Gestener I suppose) " is rejected by every single Bais Din in the country." Could you comment on this claim?Yitz Waxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09626409388081098891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-39096680408762296632013-11-25T17:59:40.328+02:002013-11-25T17:59:40.328+02:00"please please act like me and scream for wha..."please please act like me and scream for what is right" -<br /><br />Anyone who has the correct names and addresses of persons involved in persecuting the Weiss', Feinsteins, or their Yeshivos should publicize those names on this blog.EmesLeYaacovnoreply@blogger.com