tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post7683562030608823461..comments2024-03-29T09:34:59.827+03:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: ALH Report #2 (28 Aug.)"Violating the Vineyard?Daas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-75750661146028347892019-08-30T01:43:50.579+03:002019-08-30T01:43:50.579+03:00Ok. And all to PM Netanyahu's advantage, and t...Ok. And all to PM Netanyahu's advantage, and to the advantage of the State of Israel <i>in the short term</i>. But eventually the Arabs between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River are going to demand democratic rights.<br /><br />Oslo was actually in reaction to Arabs demanding those rights.<br /><br />Some Arabs in the West Bank had studied the American Revolution. They had learned the slogan, "No Taxation Without Representation."<br /><br />The way things work there is that the Arab in the West Bank are taxed, and then the State uses that money for their benefit. But in the early '90s, some of the Arabs were threatening to withold their tax payments till they got a say over how the money was disbursed.<br /><br />This apparently was a concern to Yitzchak Rabin and others. They reached out to Yasser Arafat not so much to make peace, but to bring him back in order to repress the nascent democratic movement among the Arabs.<br /><br />Labor won the election because this idea sat well with the Arab parties who were apparently privy to the (then illegal) negotiations with Yasser Arafat and they supported labor. Yitzchak Rabin became Prime Minister, and that led to Oslo. Oslo led to the crushing of the democratic rumblings. Yassar Arafat and his violent henchmen did the dirty work. The State of Israel gots its way without leaving any fingerprints.<br /><br />But sooner or later, those democratic urges among Arabs will be reignited. The coals will be fanned by Facebook and other social media platforms, and there will be a Palestinian Spring that I predict will shake the State to its core unless something is done <b>soon</b> to avert it. I sure hope I'm wrong.Joseph Orlowhttp://www.journalinginamerica.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-65468778027752625512019-08-29T17:51:06.328+03:002019-08-29T17:51:06.328+03:00Bibi is a genius. He reversed Oslo, and built a da...Bibi is a genius. He reversed Oslo, and built a dati block. Divided the Palestinian, and has a status quo with Gaza. No war, no peace. <br />Arab states now support Israel Vs Iran/Hezbollah.Kalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-79840306409709597122019-08-29T17:38:04.441+03:002019-08-29T17:38:04.441+03:00Eidah and shmuel auerbuch are a small noisy minori...Eidah and shmuel auerbuch are a small noisy minority. Real Torah observant people want and pray for idf. Rav shach opposed Oslo. Look at labour now, smaller than meretz.Kalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-21791127858804827832019-08-29T16:58:37.682+03:002019-08-29T16:58:37.682+03:00Actually, in my opinion, the ace in the hole is th...Actually, in my opinion, the ace in the hole is the Arabs. My understanding is that the whole point of Oslo was for the Labor Party to make common cause with Arab parties to lock out their political opponents.<br /><br />Many non-observant would much prefer, I think, to share power with Arabs than to be dominated by a Torah observant majority. So I think we are moving towards Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank being given more rights and eventually being made citizens of the State of Israel.<br /><br />At that point, Arabs will begin serving in the army. Torah observant Jews will have the option of emigrating or of staying living under harsh conditions.Joseph Orlowhttp://www.journalinginamerica.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-64330168764925916902019-08-29T16:28:32.986+03:002019-08-29T16:28:32.986+03:00Counterpoint - if/when the hareidim elect a pm who...Counterpoint - if/when the hareidim elect a pm who follows their "gedolim", they will close down the army and bring another churban.Kalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-48387521825150577962019-08-29T16:14:29.244+03:002019-08-29T16:14:29.244+03:00A while back I heard from the Rabbi of the Shul I ...A while back I heard from the Rabbi of the Shul I go to who heard it from his in-law z"l, who was the top student of the Chazon Ish z"l and heard this from the Chazon Ish: The Zionists are not going to hand the keys over to the Mashiach. That's a paraphrase, I may not have gotten it exactly right.<br /><br />The idea is that as the Torah observant community in Eretz Yisrael grows, it is only a matter of time before they become the overwhelming majority of Jews living in Eretz Yisrael.<br /><br />Given the widespread respect for democracy among the non-observant Jews there, one might expect a peaceful exchange of power from the non-observant to the observant.<br /><br />Not a chance. As this article illustrates.Joseph Orlowhttp://www.journalinginamerica.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-33034603138449478752019-08-29T00:12:34.712+03:002019-08-29T00:12:34.712+03:00https://jewishaction.com/religion/inspiration/the-...https://jewishaction.com/religion/inspiration/the-courage-to-serve-a-chareidi-woman-in-the-idf/Kalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-13247233766952866992019-08-28T23:29:51.691+03:002019-08-28T23:29:51.691+03:00This is probably the worst situation since the fou...This is probably the worst situation since the founding of the State!<br />Hashem yirachemBerelnoreply@blogger.com