tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post4189457508947943293..comments2024-03-28T21:30:33.665+02:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Spitzer sentenced to 7 years for arson attackDaas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-29532134437083736952012-04-18T21:11:52.749+03:002012-04-18T21:11:52.749+03:00">comparitive to the crime among the non-J...">comparitive to the crime among the non-Jewish...<<br />So why doees one, c'l, need the Torah?"<br /><br />Well, assuming God gave it said to keep it, that's probably reason enough...shaul shapiranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-82828812099687540032012-04-18T17:54:01.172+03:002012-04-18T17:54:01.172+03:00>comparitive to the crime among the non-Jewish....>comparitive to the crime among the non-Jewish...<<br />So why doees one, c'l, need the Torah?Sammynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-26503063966347349482012-04-18T05:18:33.055+03:002012-04-18T05:18:33.055+03:00I definitely don't agree that "the entire...I definitely don't agree that "the entire town should be purged from the face of the planet". Chas Veshalom!<br /><br />I've also spent Shabbos there, and know some very fine people there.<br /><br />"A person's outrage needs to be tempered with Daas Torah". Shimon and Levi were "outraged" at what happened to their sister Dinah, and Pinchas was "outraged" by the actions of Zimri. Yet, there remains a qualitative difference in their reactions, as I personally heard from R. Yaakov Kaminetzky, and is published in his "Emes Le'Yaakov". I intentionally was vague as to where the outrage should be placed, and everyone can understand it as he would like to.<br /><br />Practically no one was actually there when all the alleged acts took place, but as it was reported to the media, the entire incident and its background, seems very troubling to me. If there was more to be said for the side of the powers to be in New Square, then they have been very poor in getting their PR message out...<br /><br />Please correct me if I'm worng, but I don't recall reading any report about an outpouring of "yom tefillah" for the refuah sheleimah of the victim. Contrast that with the report that on the day of the sentencing hundreds of residents gathered in the shul to daven for the person you label as an "18 year old nut". Odd.<br /><br />מסכת שבת דף נד עמוד ב <br />כל מי שאפשר למחות וכו' באנשי עירו, נתפס על אנשי עירו<br /><br />מסכת עבודה זרה דף יח עמוד א <br />כל מי שיש בידו למחות ואינו מוחה, נענש עליו<br /><br />ועי' בשו"ת מהרי" ווייל (סי' קנז), וברמ"א (יו"ד, סי' קנז, סעי' א<br /><br />וצ"ע אם למעשה היה בידם למחות או לא, או שמא חששו שיהיו באים ח"ו לידי סכנה אם היו מוחים. והוא רחום יכפר עוןThoughtfulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-44219611127533466872012-04-18T00:04:30.732+03:002012-04-18T00:04:30.732+03:00Lets compare the per capita crime statistics of Ne...Lets compare the per capita crime statistics of New Square with the rest of Rockland County.<br /><br />The media will never compare it since it demonstrates the Hasidim are law abiding citizens, with an almost non-existant crime issue, comparitive to the crime among the non-Jewish and Non-Hasidic members of the rest of the county.Peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-47489694351782991782012-04-17T23:21:06.853+03:002012-04-17T23:21:06.853+03:00ThoughtfulApr 17, 2012 12:03 PM
"A person'...ThoughtfulApr 17, 2012 12:03 PM<br />"A person's outrage needs to be tempered with Daas Torah."<br /><br />Agreed. People should refrain from passing judgement until they've actually spent a shabbos there. I haven't, but some friends have- and they were mighty impressed. It's important to remember that this is only one 18 year old nut. Equally important (and equally cliche) is that that they don't generally report about steady chassodim and ha'chnassas orchim in the mainstream media. Nothing antisemitic about it- it's just that no one's interested in hearing about your wonderful shabbos. They'd much rather see a gory picture of someone in hospital bed.shaul shapiranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-6118956078295048012012-04-17T22:03:50.634+03:002012-04-17T22:03:50.634+03:00A person's outrage needs to be tempered with D...A person's outrage needs to be tempered with Daas Torah.<br /><br />One statement from Chazal to consider:<br /><br />ויחמול שאול והעם על אגג וכו'. א"ר יהושע בן לוי, כל שהוא רחמן על אכזרים לסוף נעשה אכזר על רחמנים, להלן כתיב ואת נוב עיר הכהנים הכה לפי חרב<br />[ילקוט שמעוני שמואל א, טו, סוף רמז קכא]<br /><br />ודי לחכימא ברמיזאThoughtfulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-64786359776431605992012-04-17T21:28:38.790+03:002012-04-17T21:28:38.790+03:00how r u hitler from 2112how r u hitler from 2112outragednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-47276269633980062342012-04-17T19:52:17.264+03:002012-04-17T19:52:17.264+03:00Spitzer got off easy. Skver is corrupt and truly ...Spitzer got off easy. Skver is corrupt and truly evil. The entire town should be purged from the face of the planet.Avihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15987913203857736139noreply@blogger.com