tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post412576589822402184..comments2024-03-28T02:08:17.990+02:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Frum Follies' lack of integrity in his slanderous claims against me Daas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-55105043137925746592014-12-24T23:25:39.546+02:002014-12-24T23:25:39.546+02:00OK. Truthseeker. Your day of reckoning has come!!...OK. Truthseeker. Your day of reckoning has come!!<br /><br />From now on your name will no longer be Truthseeker... It will be LIESEEKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><br />You have successfully proven what everyone has suspected and a many have said: You are not honest, accurate or a truthseeker. You have an agenda, and will lie to accomplish it. Unfortunately it took us this long to catch you in a lie. But better late than never. <br /><br />Anyone reading these comments, regarding LieSeeker's refusal to say who should spoke to should copy and paste them on an email and send it to everyone you know. Its about time we do LieSeeker in. She needs to be put in her place once and for all.claritynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-16009377244011999702014-12-21T23:04:34.756+02:002014-12-21T23:04:34.756+02:00"Truth"Seeker,
I have given you more th..."Truth"Seeker,<br /><br />I have given you more than 24 hours. You still have not told me who the lady is that you spoke to. I have decided to extend your time limit. I want to give you every chance possible to clear Truthseeker's name. I will extend your time another day. I am doing this for your sake. Dont let us think you are liar "Truth"seeker. As of know, that's what I think. You are a liar and you make things up. Truthseeker, do this for all the abuse victims that you feel you are helping with the fairy-tales I suspect you made up. If you do not tell us who you spoke to, no one will have any reason to take any of your comments regarding the staff seriously and we will have confirmed that Lopin is the fraud we always thought he was.<br /><br />For the sake of victims around the world, "Truth"seeker, do not continue to let us think you are dishonest and making things up. Tell us who you spoke to. You have nothing to lose by telling us who you spoke to... OR DO YOU????<br /><br />24 MORE HOURS AND WE WILL KNOW THE REAL "TRUTH(SEEKER)"...<br /><br />...claritynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-12803051664974383612014-12-19T05:51:07.675+02:002014-12-19T05:51:07.675+02:00Anyone with the slightest חוש הריח can see at once...Anyone with the slightest חוש הריח can see at once that Lopin's blog is merely a platform for hatred of frumme yidden. A disgusting venue. One visit was more than enough for me. Feh.kishkeyumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-36411426853823852302014-12-18T21:24:44.019+02:002014-12-18T21:24:44.019+02:00Truthseeker,
Im still waiting for you to tell me ...Truthseeker,<br /><br />Im still waiting for you to tell me who you spoke to. Why wont you tell us the name? I don't understand.<br /><br />I am going to assume you are lying about speaking to anyone or at least inaccurate in your report. That is a very reasonable conclusion. Otherwise, why wont you tell us her name? Either you never spoke to anyone, or you're concerned I'll call her and get a different report.<br /><br />I think its fair that if you don't post her name within 24 hours we can assume you are lying. <br /><br />Please keep in mind the ramifications of this, though. If 'Truthseeker' is lying, than she's not as truthful as she claims to be. And you have now cast doubt on all your claims and comments since your Frum Follies career began. (Of course it will also indicate that Lopin is a fool for believing you! Although I think he's really too smart to believe you anyway. He knows you exagerate and make things up. But you're convenient for him, so he's using you for his agenda. If you'd all of sudden claim Meisels was innocent, he'd put up a slandrous post about you as well. He doesn't trust or respect you either, your his pawn.)<br /><br />So... your choice "Truthseeker". Clock is ticking. In 24 hours we may know the real truth.<br /><br />I ask you once again. Please tell me who you spoke to.claritynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-55782850664296711412014-12-18T20:22:38.003+02:002014-12-18T20:22:38.003+02:00I discovered that somebody on frumfollies attacked...I discovered that somebody on frumfollies attacked my brother ferociously with blatant lies and then went after me. I responded as a commentary on ff and I was refused. I wrote to YL and it was still refused. Finally, I wrote on my blog, an answer to the haredi haters, at www.torahhalacha.blogspot.com . It shows clearly what lies are published on the ff blog and what brazen lies they are.<br /><br /><br />To refuse an attacked person the right to respond on a blog means that the blog is just about hate. I mentioned in my attack on frumfollies that my brother always publishes Yer on my brother's blog, even while calling him a liar, which my brother proves that he is. But YL will not allow me to respond to brazen lies about myself and my brother on his site.Dovid Eidensohnhttp://torahtimes.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-24199052068755509002014-12-17T18:22:54.388+02:002014-12-17T18:22:54.388+02:00Yes it's a deal!! Goodbye we will do anything ...Yes it's a deal!! Goodbye we will do anything you want if you keep your word see yaFacts Onlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-17550005989356545282014-12-17T17:34:51.439+02:002014-12-17T17:34:51.439+02:00Oh. Well, in that case, criticize away.Oh. Well, in that case, criticize away.kishkeyumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-69772516104224658342014-12-17T17:33:35.548+02:002014-12-17T17:33:35.548+02:00You wrote:
"The ppl in that program realize ...You wrote:<br /><br />"The ppl in that program realize that staff may not be compident even after all the training which Debbie gross put her all into."<br /><br />Now you pretend you said nothing negative. It's a wonder that anyone takes anything you say serioiusly. I maintain that here on DT, where your words are not celebrated by Lopin's cheering squad, we are seeing the real you.<br /><br />" I have no interest in further discussing this on this sick blog with <br />sick commenters who needlessly insult me over and over again. Good bye."<br /><br />Yes. You've promised to leave before, but never kept the promise. I don't expect this time to be any different.kishkeyumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-27602606924525010522014-12-17T16:21:49.608+02:002014-12-17T16:21:49.608+02:00I am not misconstruing your words nor do i have a ...I am not misconstruing your words nor do i have a processing disorder. But thank you for your evaluation, I went back and reread what you said. I was, indeed, quoting you correctly. You said that one of her employees says the staff may not be competent. I challenge that, as Debbie Gross has clearly stated otherwise. I think it is wrong for any of her employees to publicly contradict her assessments certainly to a random phone caller and I think that individual needs to be reprimanded.<br /><br />I respectfully request that you tell me who you spoke to so the issue can be clarified.claritynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-51621423851978147732014-12-17T15:40:26.469+02:002014-12-17T15:40:26.469+02:00And hopefully you will actually do some research. ...And hopefully you will actually do some research. TruthSeekernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-82906347546581776692014-12-17T15:22:13.948+02:002014-12-17T15:22:13.948+02:00I don't understand. You wrote earlier that you...I don't understand. You wrote earlier that you did not speak to Debbie Gross, but the person you spoke to said that "The ppl in that program realize that staff may not be compident even after all the training which Debbie gross put her all into." "Clarity" claims that he did speak to Debbie Gross and that "She is very confident in the staff and more than impressed with their training as she has stated publicly and privately." While I have no reason to accept the word of either of you as gospel, "Clarity" has a firsthand account, while you are presenting hearsay. You say you highly doubt that Debbie Gross praised the staff, because it was their incompetence which necessitated the training in the first place. The issue at hand is not their competency before their training, but after. Unless you hear from Debbie Gross herself that she still thinks the staff may not be competent, I think the objective observer would have to go (again, not as gospel) with the firsthand report of "Clarity."Yehoshuanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-7553312771522519512014-12-17T14:38:43.509+02:002014-12-17T14:38:43.509+02:00@TruthSeeker - hopefully you will keep your word t...@TruthSeeker - hopefully you will keep your word this time.Daas Torahhttp://daattorah.blogspot.co.il/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-13698815129665251522014-12-17T14:27:00.158+02:002014-12-17T14:27:00.158+02:00You are either purposely misconstruing my words or...You are either purposely misconstruing my words or you have processessing challenges. Go back and re-read what I have written. You deserve none of the info I go out of my way to receive. I highly doubt Devbie Gross has praised the staff. The whole reason why they needed this training was bc they were frighteningly incompetent at spotting abuse before. You are only saying what makes the staff seem less culpable. As for this conversation, I have no interest in further discussing this on this sick blog with sick commenters who needlessly insult me over and over again. Good bye. TruthSeekernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-15051677100493786832014-12-17T06:56:15.819+02:002014-12-17T06:56:15.819+02:00Not sure what you are referring to, but as far as ...Not sure what you are referring to, but as far as I can remember, this is the only name I have used here. I may have used a different name at some point in the past, but this is the one I have been using for the last while (and, by the way,it is my real name).Yehoshuanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-25240298162034598632014-12-17T06:54:35.620+02:002014-12-17T06:54:35.620+02:00I have been commenting here longer than I was comm...I have been commenting here longer than I was commenting there.Yehoshuanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-60850415007230178642014-12-17T04:40:02.197+02:002014-12-17T04:40:02.197+02:00I have spoken to Debbie Gross. I know her well an...I have spoken to Debbie Gross. I know her well and I know she does not feel the way you are suggesting she feels. Quite the opposite. She is very confident in the staff and more than impressed with their training as she has stated publicly and privately. That's how I know what you are saying is not true. And her job was to do that, so if you are clamimg (which you are) that the school is not safe, you are saying that she dd not do her job.<br /><br />And just to clarify, its not a matter of whether I do or do not "deserve" certain information. You are making very big claims to the world which are either wrong or unclear. I'm asking you to clarify. Nothing wrong with that. No reason to get angry. <br /><br />Truthseeker, I would like to know who the member of Debbie's staff is that is telling random people who call her that the "staff may not be competent even after all the training.". Please at least tell me her initials.<br /><br />Thank you.claritynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-25705263019246586552014-12-17T01:28:54.614+02:002014-12-17T01:28:54.614+02:00Thank you for responding.
but I spoke to a differ...Thank you for responding.<br /><br /><em>but I spoke to a different representative</em><br /><br />Who did you speak with? Have you ever heard of her prior to this conversation? <br /><br /><em>The ppl in that program realize that staff may not be compident even after all the training which Debbie gross put her all into.</em><br /><br /><br /><br />Wow. Is this the opinion of the different representative or this your opinion? Did you notify the Beis Din of your concerns?Honestynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-24785511652056095592014-12-17T01:22:05.747+02:002014-12-17T01:22:05.747+02:00a smidgen
Interesting word choice. Do you have a...<em>a smidgen</em><br /><br /><br />Interesting word choice. Do you have any other screen name that you commented with her on the DaatTorah blog?Honestynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-39453792285635156962014-12-17T00:46:42.241+02:002014-12-17T00:46:42.241+02:00Wow. Nowhere did I say that Debbie Gross did not d...Wow. Nowhere did I say that Debbie Gross did not do her job well. In fact, the opposite. And while all you are doing is saying your "feelings" abt how "you doubt" that blah blah, I am actually getting info from people. Pick yourself up and call urself. You don't deserve any info I went out of my way to get. Bye.TruthSeekernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-60464429272961491312014-12-16T23:38:55.757+02:002014-12-16T23:38:55.757+02:00Doesn't seem accurate, In fact, seems incredi...Doesn't seem accurate, In fact, seems incredibly inaccurate. Firstly, Debbie Gross is on call 24 hours a day and has an answering service. She will call you back especially if you tell her you have concerns regarding the responsibility of people she trained. Difficult to reach????? Absolutely not true.<br /><br />Additionally, Debbie Gross has openly and publicly taken responsibility for the safety of the schools. I find it ludicrous that she does not feel confident that she did a good job. Basically you're saying she is highly irresponsible and has the "I did my part" attitude. And if someone gets raped, "don't blame me!" That's ridiculous. Your whole report is rediculous.<br /><br />What is the name of the person you spoke to?claritynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-39398117373240930582014-12-16T23:21:04.739+02:002014-12-16T23:21:04.739+02:00Well, until quite recently you were a part of the ...Well, until quite recently you were a part of the FF blog-comment universe. You've only recently changed houses. Shouldn't you wait a bit before you begin criticizing the other inhabitants of your new home?kishkeyumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-17886493806690436372014-12-16T21:51:35.504+02:002014-12-16T21:51:35.504+02:00Well, I can't write the blog posts here :)Well, I can't write the blog posts here :)Yehoshuanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-72767237328835684292014-12-16T15:28:17.624+02:002014-12-16T15:28:17.624+02:00Actually, I am engaging in an attempt to bring a s...Actually, I am engaging in an attempt to bring a smidgen of thought and rationality to comments sections of blogs. I seem to be failing both here and there.Yehoshuanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-77607689590885860002014-12-16T14:48:14.965+02:002014-12-16T14:48:14.965+02:00Debbie gross is difficult to reach, but I spoke to...Debbie gross is difficult to reach, but I spoke to a different representative who wrote out strict guidelines for the school to follow. The ppl in that program realize that staff may not be compident even after all the training which Debbie gross put her all into. In general, Mrs.Gross has done her job and if the staff fails to uphold to her trainings, then that is their own fault. This is the info I received. TruthSeekernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-32225118182509790612014-12-16T13:11:26.419+02:002014-12-16T13:11:26.419+02:00So, have you contacted Debbie Gross? Has Mrs. Gros...So, have you contacted Debbie Gross? Has Mrs. Gross responded to you? What was her response?Honestynoreply@blogger.com