tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post2990999823736924879..comments2024-03-29T12:21:24.976+03:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Rav Ovadia Yosef: Obeying Rabbinic authority even when they are wrong?dDaas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-91744159872344076362023-08-10T15:00:18.012+03:002023-08-10T15:00:18.012+03:00Are all these posts reappearing so our blogmaster ...Are all these posts reappearing so our blogmaster can determine what to put in his book?Garnel Ironheartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-7065395081717382482023-08-10T01:22:58.526+03:002023-08-10T01:22:58.526+03:001) The Hareidi folk claim this to be a proof of mo...1) The Hareidi folk claim this to be a proof of modern "Daas Torah", and that it applies to anyone who calls himself a Rabbi or authority.<br /><br />2) There is clear dispute between the Yerushalmi and the Sifri.<br /><br />3) the balancing act of the Ramban et al - on what basis does he make the statement?<br /><br />4) Horayos is part of the Talmud, oral law - so it cannot really be demoted as not having authority, it is no less authoritative than other mesechtot, and it most likely overrides the Sifri anyway. Does anyone pasken against the Gemara using the Sifri on other matters?Kalonymus HaQatannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-17390492214820862162010-12-16T05:27:53.685+02:002010-12-16T05:27:53.685+02:00it should be noted that it seems Ramban/R' Yos...it should be noted that it seems Ramban/R' Yosef are noting that if and when Sanhedrin might be matir something and the person has reason to believe it shud be prohibited, he cannot just rely on their opinion. the pt to note is that we cannot imply from this discussion that were sanhedrin (or current rabbinic authority) to prohibit something (or rule against something) and we "know it" to be wrong, that we can just declare the issue hefker. <br />[please note: i am in no way making judgments on any political issues. just pointing out a diyuk in the argument.]but...noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-7608701209818282552010-12-15T16:25:04.244+02:002010-12-15T16:25:04.244+02:00I do not see how his is relevant today?I do not see how his is relevant today?Bartley Kulpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-64870833878202048012010-12-15T13:57:35.621+02:002010-12-15T13:57:35.621+02:00The ramban is very difficult as the mishna and Gem...The ramban is very difficult as the mishna and Gemara in the bavli in horayos is talking about a member of the Sanhedrin. It is very difficult to emission that a member of the Sanhedrin didnt present his opinion and have it rejected.blukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03774763780910614203noreply@blogger.com