tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post2386988401869409748..comments2024-03-28T21:30:33.665+02:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Psychology of Evil - Milgram studyDaas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-53502147623362267992008-12-21T23:43:00.000+02:002008-12-21T23:43:00.000+02:00@micha.I think, as far as this is concerned, Zimba...@micha.<BR/>I think, as far as this is concerned, Zimbardo and the Torah say exactely the same thing.<BR/><BR/>Zimbardo says: as long as you haven't been in the situation, you cannot tell how you would react. The circumstances could make you react in a way you would not have reacted had it not been for the circumstances.<BR/><BR/>What does the torah say: Bney Israel just made it out of Egypt, they thought H' was really a great guy, he gave them the 10 commandments - Torah mi sinai - they applauded and promised they would keep it forever, and 40 days later they dance around a golden calf, cast by aharhon ha kohen, declared a deity.<BR/><BR/>And there are examples like this over and over in the Torah. That's what Midah keneged Midah is all about: You cheated your father, so your sons will cheat you, so you will see what it is like. (Yaakov-Yitzhak-Beney Yaakov when Yosef was sold)<BR/><BR/>I came to the conclusion that "Al tadun et Chavercha ad she tagia limkomo" is one of the basic tenets of the Torah. (But, alas, I am not able to live up to it in my daily life.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-81600106761307398372008-12-21T20:25:00.000+02:002008-12-21T20:25:00.000+02:00Yaakov said... Who is Shmuel Z. Eidensohn? What...Yaakov said...<BR/><BR/> Who is Shmuel Z. Eidensohn? What's his connection to RBS?<BR/><BR/>He is my nephew - and is very much involved in chesed and tzedaka in RBSDaas Torahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-89517521885839539842008-12-21T18:30:00.000+02:002008-12-21T18:30:00.000+02:00Who is Shmuel Z. Eidensohn? What's his connection ...Who is Shmuel Z. Eidensohn? What's his connection to RBS?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01487465949264819893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-46340162883091957502008-12-21T12:51:00.000+02:002008-12-21T12:51:00.000+02:00Zimbardo sounds like a liberal. Denying personal r...Zimbardo sounds like a liberal. Denying personal responsibility in favor of blaming environment.<BR/><BR/>Judaism's focus on free will isn't really compatible with all that.<BR/><BR/>I argued that we are accountable for how we choose to see reality, and thus how it shapes us.see reality, and thus how it shapes us.<BR/><BR/>http://www.aishdas.org/asp/2005/01/free-will-and-environment.shtmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com