tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post1724892845424474741..comments2024-03-19T00:38:47.904+02:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: ה'תלמיד חכם' שלא הרכין את ראשו - גם כששרפו את ספרוDaas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger84125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-75313937568146361992019-06-23T21:27:39.572+03:002019-06-23T21:27:39.572+03:00Next time you are in town let me know, can meet in...Next time you are in town let me know, can meet in Kehilas Kodesh Golders Green, or even Daniels bakery.Kalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-4735749051386213192019-06-23T21:04:54.311+03:002019-06-23T21:04:54.311+03:00The latterThe latterKalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-5800807595472934942019-06-23T20:10:17.543+03:002019-06-23T20:10:17.543+03:00Currently.
Are you from Edgware or Finchley?Currently. <br />Are you from Edgware or Finchley?IsraelReadernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-74254499718534436482019-06-23T17:06:04.459+03:002019-06-23T17:06:04.459+03:00I didn't suggest otherwise. Israel?I didn't suggest otherwise. Israel?Kalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-58265768280507481152019-06-23T14:36:16.254+03:002019-06-23T14:36:16.254+03:00No, and no, and I didn't G-d forbid desecrate ...No, and no, and I didn't G-d forbid desecrate Shabbos!IsraelReadernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-50804656220256995062019-06-23T02:01:13.922+03:002019-06-23T02:01:13.922+03:00it is not moot, I am bringing that article to show...it is not moot, I am bringing that article to show that there are various opinions outside of the SA. This article was discussing other cases, but there are also various restrictions to the niddui, how it was (if at all written), etc.Kalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-90357922249464751612019-06-23T01:59:30.261+03:002019-06-23T01:59:30.261+03:00Is Shabbes over in USA, or are you in the UK?Is Shabbes over in USA, or are you in the UK?Kalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-28749982747068481742019-06-23T01:05:22.028+03:002019-06-23T01:05:22.028+03:00Due to his passing, the point is moot. But regardl...Due to his passing, the point is moot. But regardless, I don't recall ever mentioning about whether or not he was to be excluded from a minyan...IsraelReadernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-11210700033536762322019-06-23T00:54:41.859+03:002019-06-23T00:54:41.859+03:00See here also, where he quotes the Aruch Hashulcha...See here also, where he quotes the Aruch Hashulchan, that exclusion from a minyan must be stipulated in the niddui for it to be effective, thus if it s not part of the niddui, the subject is not excluded from a minyan<br /><br /><br />https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8XBjccyzdL8C&pg=PA63&lpg=PA63&dq=niddui+aruch&source=bl&ots=jqK741hLBP&sig=ACfU3U1giEUQloKJpEa6r4S3uY-Ue_It1A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjGn--Jif7iAhUMilwKHVA_A8AQ6AEwAXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=niddui%20aruch&f=falseKalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-42632824585283135702019-06-21T19:30:35.375+03:002019-06-21T19:30:35.375+03:00When I said Christ in the context of hareidi leade...When I said Christ in the context of hareidi leaders, the book and the ban, I meant "perfect", the false notion of perfection that xtians hold. Rnk book on gedolim smashes this myth. So the opposition are holding on to this myth. <br />I pointed to the irony of the claim of the misnagdim to be following the Gra, when in fact they have adopted a hassidic view of the rebbe for their own gedolim. That is why nosson K calling one teenage gadol a "sore loser" when losing a chess game is such a sin. The idea that gedolim are not human is sheker.Kalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-66800683486196593522019-06-21T18:55:13.875+03:002019-06-21T18:55:13.875+03:00Maybe you are right
Maybe ben Chaim is right:
http...Maybe you are right<br />Maybe ben Chaim is right:<br />http://www.mesora.org/chassidism.htmlKalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-87554640471478942432019-06-21T18:35:30.153+03:002019-06-21T18:35:30.153+03:00You're mischaracterizing the Gra's stance....You're mischaracterizing the Gra's stance. <br />Except for the Lubavitcher, who claimed that a rebbe is divine [“Essence and Being of God enclothed in a body”], nobody else dared to make such a radical suggestion.<br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elazar_Shach<br />See comment by Rabbi Chaim Dov Keller:<br />http://www.chabad-mafia.com/idolatryIsraelReadernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-16247365897523666102019-06-21T18:19:46.266+03:002019-06-21T18:19:46.266+03:00Christ/ Pope -divine/infallibleChrist/ Pope -divine/infallibleKalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-58057784293611932552019-06-21T18:19:39.919+03:002019-06-21T18:19:39.919+03:00The idea of the importance of having a rebbe is no...The idea of the importance of having a rebbe is not idolatrous, and is mentioned in the Mishnah (Avos 1:6).<br /><br />Te article you cited is a poor source of the debate, and does not provide references. I have no desire to serve as your tutor for things you have have half-baked information about.<br /><br />What is the "Christ-like image of Gedolim" that you refer to?<br /><br />What proof do you have that it existed in the time of the Gra, and that the Gra opposed it?IsraelReadernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-7955724538464383902019-06-21T18:19:29.245+03:002019-06-21T18:19:29.245+03:00Your comment should be directed to Berel, who clai...Your comment should be directed to Berel, who claimed that this was all politically motivated.<br />I've studied the Gra, his history, and and his teachings for several decades, and have never seen any mention of such a reason for his opposition to Chassidism.<br />Source?IsraelReadernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-10134530998649233982019-06-21T18:19:26.117+03:002019-06-21T18:19:26.117+03:00It's not irrelevant. The first letter was writ...It's not irrelevant. The first letter was written by Rav elyashiv, and then he gathered more signatories. There's a distinction between calling for action, and taking the said action. We want to see evidence of the actual niddui.Kalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-27243852961388472019-06-21T18:19:19.309+03:002019-06-21T18:19:19.309+03:00You're the one who mentioned "political m...You're the one who mentioned "political motivation".IsraelReadernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-57519699240287778102019-06-21T18:19:16.242+03:002019-06-21T18:19:16.242+03:00The joke is on you.
In the interview with him, RNK...The joke is on you.<br />In the interview with him, RNK himself noted RMYL's call for a Niddui.<br />https://news.walla.co.il/item/1840163<br />http://www.rationalistjudaism.com/2011/08/interview-with-rav-nosson-kamenetzky.html<br />I understand that RNK was still sore about it, but he never tells us the why & what which was driving R' Michel Yehuda.IsraelReadernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-91075927903833659942019-06-21T18:18:06.692+03:002019-06-21T18:18:06.692+03:00please send a copy of the ban
all it says is tha...please send a copy of the ban<br /><br /><br />all it says is that he wanted to ban himDaas Torahhttp://daattorah.blogspot.co.il/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-70462882072808219312019-06-21T16:55:59.061+03:002019-06-21T16:55:59.061+03:00I've heard it 100 times. I've no time to e...I've heard it 100 times. I've no time to educate you about your phantom nidduis, where are your sour sources? On your phantom hard drive?Kalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-12766038011778176392019-06-21T16:02:38.339+03:002019-06-21T16:02:38.339+03:00Typical maamar on the subject
https://www.aish.com...Typical maamar on the subject<br />https://www.aish.com/jl/h/cc/48954961.html?mobile=yes<br /><br />Sees the concept of rebbe as being close to idolatryKalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-9481173203481881702019-06-21T15:11:04.504+03:002019-06-21T15:11:04.504+03:00Depends on how you define political. There is no ...Depends on how you define political. There is no bizayon of Torah, but it weakens the Christ-like image of Gedolim. The gra opposed chassidism, in part because of the Christ like image of the leaders. Ironic that the mitnagdim have now adopted this business model.Kalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-81195675022247972062019-06-21T15:03:47.111+03:002019-06-21T15:03:47.111+03:00I'm only joking, stealing your terminology, ha...I'm only joking, stealing your terminology, haha.Kalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-80238215888829157082019-06-21T14:22:20.150+03:002019-06-21T14:22:20.150+03:00Totally irrelevant to the discussion, which is the...Totally irrelevant to the discussion, which is the aspect R' Michel Yehuda Lefkowitz in the story.<br /><br />The page is devoted to the book, and was presumably written from the Kamenetzky perspective, which I don't blame them for. However of conspicuous absence is any mention of RMYL, whose involvement in the story was carefully airbrushed out.<br /><br />We know that RMYL was involved, as RNK himself noted in the interview with him:<br />https://news.walla.co.il/item/1840163<br />http://www.rationalistjudaism.com/2011/08/interview-with-rav-nosson-kamenetzky.html<br />I understand that RNK was still sore about it, but he never tells us the why & what which was driving R' Michel Yehuda.IsraelReadernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-53943715660568811192019-06-21T13:44:08.085+03:002019-06-21T13:44:08.085+03:00Phantom niddui? LolPhantom niddui? LolKalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.com