tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post985146916313012112..comments2024-03-19T10:06:55.071+02:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Kolko Case: Please print out Reb Dovid Epstein's letter and put it up in your shulDaas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-34226905796442483002013-06-25T00:14:09.918+03:002013-06-25T00:14:09.918+03:00Uri you seem to be saying that a confession must b...Uri you seem to be saying that a confession must be assumed to be false because he wanted a lighter sentence?! There is no question that there are false confessions - but I haven't seen any evidence that most confessions are false or even a high percentage of confessions. Where is the evidence that he confessed in order to get a lighter sentence?<br /><br /><br />In this case the beis din seems to have accepted that Kolko was guilty - they told him to go to therapy. The social worker seems to have believed he was guity after interviewing him. There were additional accussers.<br /><br />Bottom line after confessing in court he loses his presumption of innocence. Anybody who would now hire him as a teacher - and he subsequently abused his students - could not claim that the confession had no significance.Daas Torahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-81688346280639844912013-06-24T23:22:40.802+03:002013-06-24T23:22:40.802+03:00true torah,
It doesn't seem that you read my p...true torah,<br />It doesn't seem that you read my post. Did I say anything which was anti this letter? Am I arguing that this Rabbi was misinformed?<br />My only point was that this blogger has on numerous occasions referred to Kolko's own admission as a proof of his guilt, and in my eyes this mind-boggling.Urinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-26044171725428602322013-06-23T08:48:48.710+03:002013-06-23T08:48:48.710+03:00IN NY YOU JUST HAVE TO STATE tHAT YOU WANT TO Plea...IN NY YOU JUST HAVE TO STATE tHAT YOU WANT TO Plea Bargain In Nj To Plea Bargain you need to Itamize Each Charge and Plead Guilty to it, expressing remorse helps in getting a reduced sentance it is possible Kolko is innocent and took the plea. Prosecuters and Lawyers allways play the Game That They Have "Additional Evidence" in their BagChainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-52145694457326090252013-06-23T07:42:51.266+03:002013-06-23T07:42:51.266+03:00So how did it go?
Did we raise awareness?
Was th...So how did it go?<br /><br />Did we raise awareness?<br /><br />Was the letter all over the place, or only in the couple of shuls that I checked?concernedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00725433166043905160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-17767854596239548262013-06-23T05:38:37.250+03:002013-06-23T05:38:37.250+03:00hershey,
What impact would it have on the communi...hershey,<br /><br />What impact would it have on the community if a single random baal habayis indicated his remorse? It would in no way show a reversal of the opinion of any of the Rabbonim.<br /><br />Even if you consider many Rabbonim baalei batim, they appear as Rabbonim to the community at large whereas a baal habayis does not carry the same impact.tzoorbanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-40208593170904359582013-06-21T20:26:19.819+03:002013-06-21T20:26:19.819+03:00The passive witnesses in this case are the so call...The passive witnesses in this case are the so called Chariedi sites that haven't posted this letter or Belsky's letter to the RCA.<br /><br />SHAME ON THEM!!<br /><br />To quote an infamous letter written by Belsky, "anyone with any power over them should make them stop".concernedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00725433166043905160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-49440521761996605152013-06-21T16:38:56.794+03:002013-06-21T16:38:56.794+03:00Tzoorba. I hate to say it but many if not most rab...Tzoorba. I hate to say it but many if not most rabonim today are somewhat of a ball habos. That being said, whats your point precisely. The chofets chaim was a bal habayis too and so were are so manyhersheynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-26785554767468561892013-06-21T13:58:42.416+03:002013-06-21T13:58:42.416+03:00Make sure to hang them up firmly a moment before S...Make sure to hang them up firmly a moment before Shabbos. That way they'll stay up for at least 24 hours. Avraham1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-49156754137395925512013-06-21T05:41:50.020+03:002013-06-21T05:41:50.020+03:00As far as I remember Reb Dovid Epstein, he was a v...As far as I remember Reb Dovid Epstein, he was a very fine fellow and is obviously a great yorei shomaim. However, I believe he is a baal habayis and his letter wouldn't provide the impression that you seek if you are looking for Rabbinical support.tzoorbanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-81820626928639533102013-06-21T04:53:15.158+03:002013-06-21T04:53:15.158+03:00Uri. U seem to misunderstand that whether or not h...Uri. U seem to misunderstand that whether or not he is guilty, the father still got a heter to go to police. And this is exactly what the letter is addressing. To let everyone know that this rabbi was misinformed and indeed did get a heter and he Is askingMechila from the family for torturing them. Whats so hard To understand. As a matter of fact i am personally going to hang up this letter in several brooklyn shuls.true torahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-1855916770997311962013-06-21T02:24:16.307+03:002013-06-21T02:24:16.307+03:00One point that you consistently ignore and refuse ...One point that you consistently ignore and refuse to address is why you insist that Kolko's confession actually means anything.<br />If the evidence points to his guilt that's one thing, but what do you think his admission proves? I presume you know that people plead guilty just to get a lighter sentence. Please explain.Urinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-46351568812258380472013-06-20T23:26:06.029+03:002013-06-20T23:26:06.029+03:00I would like to see a letter from R' Yosef apo...I would like to see a letter from R' Yosef apologizing to R Stav .Ben MIkrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07122937371918515052noreply@blogger.com