tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post7929161199959526903..comments2024-03-29T12:21:24.976+03:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Satmar attack: "The man called Rab"d - rebellious elder" Daas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-60399311757945965002013-08-20T00:28:42.495+03:002013-08-20T00:28:42.495+03:00behemosbehemosBen MIkrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07122937371918515052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-68765108294672916812013-08-14T16:35:58.465+03:002013-08-14T16:35:58.465+03:00To the Eidah Chareidus: You reap what you sow...To the Eidah Chareidus: You reap what you sow...Torah Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03106220935439713748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-44251593989131922942013-08-14T14:42:39.905+03:002013-08-14T14:42:39.905+03:00Rav o J used tziruf to allow guns to be given to a...Rav o J used tziruf to allow guns to be given to arafat ימ׳ש at osloObzervernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-29187811908051979902013-08-14T14:40:43.769+03:002013-08-14T14:40:43.769+03:00The asra kadisha physicly attacked rav alyashuv ov...The asra kadisha physicly attacked rav alyashuv over the graves at pisgat zev road 20 years agoObzervernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-282391411691389142013-08-14T10:03:33.066+03:002013-08-14T10:03:33.066+03:00I'm sorry to disagree with your words, but in ...I'm sorry to disagree with your words, but in my opinion and for the very reason you give, if Zalman L Philip was in support of Rav Moshe Shternbuch, I would say the nerve of him.observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-14325404008024114482013-08-14T06:01:12.446+03:002013-08-14T06:01:12.446+03:00there are two issues (at least): one is the actual...there are two issues (at least): one is the actual question / machloqet at hand. that point can be debated how ever much people want. the second is the reaction to the debate. that someone, and especially a rav who has a few years under his belt (meaning, he isn't some teenager) is upset doesn't give him the right to label a person considered to be a gadol as a tzaqen mamreh. that behavior is treif.Ben Waxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02798895161663664689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-47787012859090934262013-08-13T18:41:30.236+03:002013-08-13T18:41:30.236+03:00He is certainly not a Zaken Mamreh, because this c...He is certainly not a Zaken Mamreh, because this can't exist B'zman Hazeh as there is no Sabhedrin. But the fact that one exaggerates in their language because they have been angered, does not mean that they have nothing to be upset about. I still respect the commentators on this post even though they are sometimes quick to condemn, but I point out that they are doing the same thing that they are criticizing and that the issues should be looked at and understood.Lmaan Haemessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-76889709415476704432013-08-13T18:15:14.109+03:002013-08-13T18:15:14.109+03:00so you are willing to entertain the possibility th...so you are willing to entertain the possibility that rav sternbauch is a tzaken mamreh?Ben Waxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02798895161663664689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-37741290812315604932013-08-13T17:28:39.962+03:002013-08-13T17:28:39.962+03:00After reading this post, I was still left wonderin...After reading this post, I was still left wondering what are the underlying issues behind this dispute. If we are condemning anyone for being too quick on the trigger to attack Rabbi Sternbuch, then at least we should go with this logic and not pass judgement before due diligence. I thank Koillel nick for the being so far the only commentator who is actually making a point other than a mere attack. Lmaan Haemessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-22948939041731451422013-08-13T16:16:05.076+03:002013-08-13T16:16:05.076+03:00Why let halacha emerge in a great fight for power!...Why let halacha emerge in a great fight for power!!!Yoninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-66894972174404897472013-08-13T13:31:47.867+03:002013-08-13T13:31:47.867+03:00@ R Eidensohn
This whole saga starts with the assu...@ R Eidensohn<br />This whole saga starts with the assumption that if there are indeed graves then the buildings cannot be built. Yet it is far from clear that the halacha is so. There are many poskim that allow one to move graves if there is a need. There is a Yerushalmi that permits moving graves after the flesh has already disintegrates, Ramban, Tur, and Noda Biyehuda all permit it is well. R Mosh Feinstein permits it as well. R O Yossef concludes that it is a machlokes Rishonim, and allows it only with a tziruf. koillel nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-13465116720889077122013-08-13T08:20:58.881+03:002013-08-13T08:20:58.881+03:001) i assume that there isn't any real fight ab...1) i assume that there isn't any real fight about the graves, that the positions could easily be reversed (yes i am cynical). or, maybei should be fairer: along side the halachic question, there is an additional fight over control of the chassidic world (or a section of it).<br /><br />2) the way that certain elements in this story are acting shows that the idea of "kavod hatorah", "kavod rabbanim" "70 panim" simply doesn't exist. Ben Waxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02798895161663664689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-78574594958556329102013-08-13T07:46:40.020+03:002013-08-13T07:46:40.020+03:00What goes around, comes around.
What goes around, comes around. <br />koillel nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-10652801127705326302013-08-13T05:32:15.339+03:002013-08-13T05:32:15.339+03:00Anyone want to provide the translation?Anyone want to provide the translation?Student Vnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-76940855987265248742013-08-13T01:52:18.867+03:002013-08-13T01:52:18.867+03:00Is this a fight over dogma or is Mr Phillip mad he...Is this a fight over dogma or is Mr Phillip mad he didn't get a payoff?Howard Tzvinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-89922803512525714512013-08-13T01:49:53.081+03:002013-08-13T01:49:53.081+03:00Zalman Lieb Phillip who supported Weberman now com...Zalman Lieb Phillip who supported Weberman now comes out against R"Shternbuch, the nerve of him!Howard Tzvinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-77901947119258782522013-08-13T00:03:14.392+03:002013-08-13T00:03:14.392+03:00Goes to show that in reality, the "kana'u...Goes to show that in reality, the "kana'us" of some people is egoistic rage readily vented against whoever disagrees with their views. Avraham1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-39099269504683844322013-08-12T23:20:20.358+03:002013-08-12T23:20:20.358+03:00Satmar's mode of behavior regarding Eretz Yisr...Satmar's mode of behavior regarding Eretz Yisroel is to agitate, incite and inflame. Right, wrong or indifference plays no role, it is to keep the subject of Evil Zionists as the main role in the destruction of Yiddishkeit. sima irhakodeshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-86524871372722043492013-08-12T21:54:50.820+03:002013-08-12T21:54:50.820+03:00This is beyond ridiculous.
Satmar seem to have pr...This is beyond ridiculous. <br />Satmar seem to have problems with everyone and anyone, and not just the Modernists, Zionists, Agudists, Degelniks, but also between themselves and now this is just the next phase of internecine warfare. <br />Also, there is an unknown Rabbi calling a Gadol such names - it is not at all convincing. Ben MIkrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07122937371918515052noreply@blogger.com