tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post7077303864153593886..comments2024-03-29T12:21:24.976+03:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: WHAT DO WOMEN WANT sexually?Daas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-3079735504236934672019-07-27T21:25:57.194+03:002019-07-27T21:25:57.194+03:00NO BUT DISQUS SOMETIMES TRASHES THEMNO BUT DISQUS SOMETIMES TRASHES THEMDaas Torahhttp://daattorah.blogspot.co.il/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-75733595967648995362019-07-26T20:17:27.190+03:002019-07-26T20:17:27.190+03:00Do you often remove comments that 'schlog you ...Do you often remove comments that 'schlog you up'? Hardly a fair debater.Shimonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-17885377978635570472019-07-26T16:38:10.266+03:002019-07-26T16:38:10.266+03:00The farding/ or the clothing? Please elaborate
K...The farding/ or the clothing? Please elaborate <br /><br />Kosnas or seems likely, but that can suffice with any shmatte covering, no need for attractive clothing.<br /><br />Vayishan vayikach: Rashi says, kedei shelo yireh...vetisbazeh olov - not to be repulsive and should be acceptable and rather attractive. <br /><br />As an example we realize by Yehuda and Tamar, that all it was to satisfy a physical need that he sought out, once quenched, he moved on. Derech shel mi lachzor etzel mi reflects the same, it is an inborn instinct that Hashem designed so that the world go on, no romance need to take place to precipitate.<br /><br />Ve'el ishech teshukosech is an emotional need, that is feeling in the heart and very spiritual = emotional. A woman's attraction to man starts by being noticed, given attention, displaying interest, leshadel bidvorim thereby stirring *emotions*, feelings, then comes the cravings and only to that and only then does she respond. In nature, you must give her time to catch up until all this is taking place. Otherwise she would be looking out on the streets like the instincts in men and be all worked up with the same pace.ehudnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-29479411300017184562019-07-26T11:48:48.853+03:002019-07-26T11:48:48.853+03:00thanks for the acknowledgementthanks for the acknowledgementDaas Torahhttp://daattorah.blogspot.co.il/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-50921629794044307262019-07-26T03:02:05.695+03:002019-07-26T03:02:05.695+03:00I stand corrected, was actually hesitant whether i...I stand corrected, was actually hesitant whether it reflects a need of Sarah the Malachim invoked.ehudnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-41377600438993735232019-07-25T23:37:05.699+03:002019-07-25T23:37:05.699+03:00that is a gross misreading of the rashi you cited...that is a gross misreading of the rashi you citedDaas Torahhttp://daattorah.blogspot.co.il/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-57059724888293594922019-07-25T23:24:31.588+03:002019-07-25T23:24:31.588+03:00gemora says that was a punishment not natural ...gemora says that was a punishment not natural expression of needsDaas Torahhttp://daattorah.blogspot.co.il/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-46009680825258765802019-07-25T17:11:17.484+03:002019-07-25T17:11:17.484+03:00That's their way asking for love, an emotional...That's their way asking for love, an emotional need. Why else are they going through all that trouble. They are not supposed to be more explicit than that.ehudnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-66089993180957267312019-07-25T15:12:28.146+03:002019-07-25T15:12:28.146+03:00The gemoroh extorts husbands to be sensitive to th...The gemoroh extorts husbands to be sensitive to their wives. They cry more. So it was already cultural in the time of the gemoroh at least.Shimonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-4879561385449989662019-07-25T15:10:33.488+03:002019-07-25T15:10:33.488+03:00You asked where does it say emotional needs?
I wo...You asked where does it say emotional needs?<br /><br />I would reply you do not find any obligation on the women to provide simcha to the man. There are only obligations on the women to the husband in this area of life given by chazal. Its all about the husband giving to the wife. <br /><br />The wife must appear nice, but that is physical for the husband.Shimonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-5550618179197807922019-07-25T14:30:29.702+03:002019-07-25T14:30:29.702+03:00THAT WAS NOT THE ISSUE - IT WAS THE IDEA THAT WOMA...THAT WAS NOT THE ISSUE - IT WAS THE IDEA THAT WOMAN ARE FOCUSED ON EMOTION WHILE MEN ARE DIFFERENT AND ARE FOCUSED ON THE PHYSICALDaas Torahhttp://daattorah.blogspot.co.il/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-14877907760785368722019-07-25T12:40:16.568+03:002019-07-25T12:40:16.568+03:00The question was a source that a woman has emotion...The question was a source that a woman has emotional needs. I provided this. Not sure of your point.Shimonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-89887242029527607962019-07-25T11:58:32.177+03:002019-07-25T11:58:32.177+03:00but men have the same needbut men have the same needDaas Torahhttp://daattorah.blogspot.co.il/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-78012909303075553822019-07-25T10:17:23.800+03:002019-07-25T10:17:23.800+03:00Simchah is an emotional need, no?Simchah is an emotional need, no?Shimonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-89157612974059299522019-07-24T22:50:00.206+03:002019-07-24T22:50:00.206+03:00WRONG TRANSLATION = THE ISSUE RASHI MENTIONS IS TO...WRONG TRANSLATION = THE ISSUE RASHI MENTIONS IS TO MAKE HER MORE DESIRABLE TO ABRAHAM SEE KESUBOS 17A<br /><br />Our Rabbis taught: How does one dance31 before the bride? Beth Shammai say:The bride as she is.1 And Beth Hillel say: ‘Beautiful and graceful bride’!2 Beth Shammai said to Beth Hillel: If she was lame or blind, does one say of her: ‘Beautiful and graceful bride’? Whereas the Torah3 said, ‘Keep thee far from a false matter.’4 Said Beth Hillel to Beth Shammai: According to your words,5 if one has made a bad purchase in the market, should one praise it6 in his eyes or depreciate it?7 Surely,8 one should praise it in his eyes. Therefore,9 the Sages said: Always should the disposition of man be pleasant with people. — When R. Dimi came,10 he said: Thus they sing before the bride in the West:11 no powder12 and no paint13 and no waving14 [of the hair], and still a graceful gazelle.Daas Torahhttp://daattorah.blogspot.co.il/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-19460266477622828702019-07-24T21:27:16.933+03:002019-07-24T21:27:16.933+03:00כתב ה"חתם סופר" זי"ע בצוואתו: ולא ת...כתב ה"חתם סופר" זי"ע בצוואתו: ולא תאמרו נשתנו העתים, כי יש לנו אב זקן יתברך שמו, לא נשתנה, ולא ישתנהlee pennnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-38205826943352537842019-07-24T19:02:14.297+03:002019-07-24T19:02:14.297+03:00I like the aggadic statements of chazal. In cases...I like the aggadic statements of chazal. In cases of human nature, psychology etc are they views gained by the insight of the sages, or is there a claim that they are from Sinai. ?Kalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-64405542903381086902019-07-24T18:26:35.354+03:002019-07-24T18:26:35.354+03:00How about " Ayeh Sarah ishtecho", Rashi ...How about " Ayeh Sarah ishtecho", Rashi - kedei lechavevo al Baalah, indicating or acknowledging her emotional need to be loved, as the Rabbi stated.ehudnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-53880287607709784082019-07-24T18:00:55.181+03:002019-07-24T18:00:55.181+03:00Why does one have to be at the complete exclusion ...Why does one have to be at the complete exclusion of the other? Why can't women be more focused emotionally while still caring about physical aspects of intimacy? Maybe women need both? If I personally wanted to make any generalization, I would study the source.Anna Barovskinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-42001659157609465082019-07-24T16:05:25.273+03:002019-07-24T16:05:25.273+03:00שולחן ערוך אורח חיים סימן ר"מ
סעיף י. אם הי...שולחן ערוך אורח חיים סימן ר"מ<br /><br />סעיף י. אם היה לו כעס עמה, אסור לשמש עד שיפייסנה; ויכול לספר עמה קודם תשמיש, כדי לרצותה<br /><br />סעיף יג. אכסנאי אסור לשמש; ואם יחדו לו ולאשתו בית, מותר ובלבד שלא יישן בטליתו של בעה"ב<br /><br />סעיף יז. מטה שישן בה עם אשתו, צריך שתהא ראשה ומרגלותיה זה לצפון וזה לדרוםlee pennnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-2728177485856631012019-07-24T16:02:19.269+03:002019-07-24T16:02:19.269+03:00that is not proof of emotional needsthat is not proof of emotional needsDaas Torahhttp://daattorah.blogspot.co.il/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-55202899476497410502019-07-24T14:05:43.153+03:002019-07-24T14:05:43.153+03:00I had not seen the added portion of DT. I have see...I had not seen the added portion of DT. I have seen pictures of seating toilets in archaelogical findings in Jerusalem using leaves for swipes, and a tray containing sand of which they had no clue for it's purpose. Same with public toilets in Rome, all seatings only. Squatting is in many Mideast countries of which only constrains the intestines making it more difficult to evacuate.<br /> My explanation for the purpose of the sand in the clay tray was for in case of slippage or tearing of the leaves in order to clean their hands, so as not to wipe and smear it on the wall like you find in many modern day stalls.ehudnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-45546494116006539232019-07-24T13:33:34.175+03:002019-07-24T13:33:34.175+03:00Yes to both. Women spend and invest lots of time t...Yes to both. Women spend and invest lots of time to be attractive, adorning themselves, add scents, pretty clothes, mannerisms in the way they walk (psioseho naos), emotionally expressive, giving and kindness (kidmi eschem balechem) etc. in order to be noticed (emotion). R' Moshe's quote from Talmud 'Vekinas yerech bechavarta', as well as 'a woman would pursue to be attractive till the grave' all reflect the need for emotional experience and response. They tend to look in your eyes for feedback too find your twinkle if you are pleased with their presence. All these are subliminal messages for being noticed, acknowledged, complemented and receive affection stirring their *emotion*, and that is the target and that is the key, how they do differ in their experience, as opposed to men. They like to be spoken softly with feelings, 'Ko *somar* lebeis Yaakov vesageid leYisroel, umechabdo yoser migufo. As far as rules are concerned, she cannot be verbally explicit and be tovea befeh, just in their manner of being attractive and clothing . Emotionally charged atmosphere such as sensuality and romance is their aphrodisiac.ehudnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-12416424810411522862019-07-24T12:09:12.570+03:002019-07-24T12:09:12.570+03:00you provided no proof just self serving interpreta...you provided no proof just self serving interpretations which were not convincingDaas Torahhttp://daattorah.blogspot.co.il/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-42866474916308563252019-07-24T11:53:23.269+03:002019-07-24T11:53:23.269+03:00It's in the gemara!It's in the gemara!Kalonymus Anonymusnoreply@blogger.com