tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post6099835964252999034..comments2024-03-28T02:08:17.990+02:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Should one's child marry a ger?Daas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger110125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-2565585678212365502018-08-18T23:17:57.587+03:002018-08-18T23:17:57.587+03:00please write your own guest postplease write your own guest postDaas Torahhttp://daattorah.blogspot.co.il/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-30142182015873089502018-08-18T21:37:57.376+03:002018-08-18T21:37:57.376+03:00You're so right, chavah. I'm blocking this...You're so right, chavah. I'm blocking this website.Hazel Kongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-23565022752903143902018-08-18T21:36:59.114+03:002018-08-18T21:36:59.114+03:00<3 yasher koach for sticking out for us.<3 yasher koach for sticking out for us.Hazel Kongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-6103552240947199272018-08-18T21:35:08.929+03:002018-08-18T21:35:08.929+03:00Wow. I hope you will not make any such generalisat...Wow. I hope you will not make any such generalisations about any class of people, ever again... <br />I am a convert, corporate lawyer, young, single, native speaker of 3 languages plus fluent in Hebrew, and I have been shomer for 2 years. Hashem's world is huge, buddy; have an ayin hatov.Hazel Kongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-5786916935875177372018-08-18T21:30:17.689+03:002018-08-18T21:30:17.689+03:00A strange complaint? Are you kidding me. Ahavas ha...A strange complaint? Are you kidding me. Ahavas hager is a d'Oraisa mitzvah, 36 times it was written about, ki-ger hayita beeretz Mitzrayim. Essential gratitude to Hashem and empathy. Your logic reveals your belief that 1) it is muttar to be oiver a serious issur, because of your non-halachic, totally speculative cost-benefit analysis of the future; and 2) rabbonim/politics/humans control the running of the universe including your grandchildren's wellbeing. <br />The falsehood of 1) needs no explanation. Re 2), G-d runs the world, and He is just. Even if some people have it harder, we say B"H. The fact that Rabi Akiva got skinned to death is no indication of his level of holiness. The fact that your grandchildren has no issue of proof of Judaism is, also, no indication of their level of holiness. Are you aiming for an easy life, or for holiness?<br />Look, if you are truly worried about your avodas Hashem and the zchuyos of your children/grandchildren, perhaps you would like to consider the above two issues with your beliefs.Hazel Kongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-60798263333054868982018-08-18T21:12:25.962+03:002018-08-18T21:12:25.962+03:00Amen, shkoyach. I am a ger tzedek and I pity the O...Amen, shkoyach. I am a ger tzedek and I pity the OP. He/she should re-evaluate his/her ayin hatov/ra in viewing other Yidden, which ultimately relate to the humility in his/her relationship with Hashem.Hazel Kongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-89132318500277990562013-09-17T17:40:16.864+03:002013-09-17T17:40:16.864+03:00Good work on necromancing a post that is over thre...Good work on necromancing a post that is over three years old.<br /><br />Oh and she was actually quoting Rav Abadi, would you like to know what Rav Ovadia has written in his teshuvot about him? Rabbi Michael Tzadokhttp://mekubal.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-89434628280250424172013-09-17T17:35:37.023+03:002013-09-17T17:35:37.023+03:00Actually I meant Chazon Ovadia. As far as Halacha...Actually I meant Chazon Ovadia. As far as Halacha Berura on Shabbat, check again. <br /><br /><i>Read the Introduction to Halichot Olam, which is reprinted from Yabia Omer (Chelek Daled).</i><br />Actually it wasn't. Halichot Olam was a commentary that he wrote relatively recently on the Ben Ish Hai...<br /><br /><i>We are not choshesh for the shitot of Ashkenazim lechumra. </i><br />First I didn't say that we were. However, the Ben Ish Hai and the Kaf HaChaim would disagree with you. Now if you are talking from the perspective of Rav Ovadiah than you are correct.<br /><i>Learn Chacham Ovadia's teshuvas before you criticize "leftist MO."</i><br />You have quite obviously not understood what I wrote, or why... but that is OK. Free internet(mostly) so feel free to criticize me for the things you think I said.<br /><i> You speak with disdain</i><br />First I don't speak, I type, and the difference is of the greatest importance. Any emotion or tone that you read into my words are the ones that you bring to the table, as they are impossible to lift from black on white words unless emotive descriptors are used. Now as far as actual disdain, by definition "the feeling that someone or something is unworthy of one's consideration or respect; contempt". Clearly not the case since I actually responded. <br />Rabbi Michael Tzadokhttp://mekubal.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-43531128245957117252013-09-17T12:57:51.631+03:002013-09-17T12:57:51.631+03:00Halacha Berura is not one of Chacham Ovadia's ...Halacha Berura is not one of Chacham Ovadia's sefarim - it is one of Rav David Yosef's Sefarim. Further, there is no section on hilchot shabbat in Halacha Berura yet. (It will be, coming soon.) I assume you mean Halichot Olam. Read the Introduction to Halichot Olam, which is reprinted from Yabia Omer (Chelek Daled). We are not choshesh for the shitot of Ashkenazim lechumra. At all. Learn Chacham Ovadia's teshuvas before you criticize "leftist MO." You speak with disdain for others' learning but you make simple mistakes. You should know that ga'avah destroys worlds. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-26870743021022912292013-04-30T03:40:44.349+03:002013-04-30T03:40:44.349+03:00It was heartbreaking to read some of the negative ...It was heartbreaking to read some of the negative comments by some people towards gerim on here. I'm not a stranger to the negativity but to see the positive response in return from other Jews is what I really focus on. It's easy to think that we as gerim don't have a place. And sometimes it takes a while for us to find it. But honestly, I have heard FFB Jews run BT Jews into the ground. I've heard BT Jews run secular Jews into the ground. I've heard secular Jews run any relgious Jew down. At the end of the day, to complain and be nasty about Gerim is par for the course for some people, maybe even a sign that we also belong. It's a horrbible sign, but anyone who is going to have negative thoughts towards my kids because of their status, I honestly don't want in my family. I have to share my grandkids with whomever my children marry. I don't want picky narrow minded inlaws. So, thank Gd for the people who make it clear what they think. And it's funny to say Shiksa, but what do we say when it's a man making gerus? And what about the tiny little FFB gerim that are female? Seriously...wow...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-24360360116296178402012-12-07T11:22:03.725+02:002012-12-07T11:22:03.725+02:00I have learned on my Jewish ancestry, it is my pat...I have learned on my Jewish ancestry, it is my paternal side. I did DNA testing. The paternal line is of ME origin from several thousand years ago. I have found parts of my biological family in Israel, US. If not for the Shoah I could know that much earlier in life. Maybe I would be born Jewish or convert early. It is good conversion is hard. Keep it hard and difficult, discourage the convert before the things are finalized. Then love the convert, for only those really feeling Jewish would do the conversion. Saying 'converts are traitors' means Yisrael cannot properly decide who should be a convert. The problem lies within how the Law is interpreted by those born Jewish (not strict enough maybe?). Also, for converts with Jewish ancestry, how can they become fed up of being Jewish, they may become not observant or self-hating, but they cannot cut off so and so much flesh off and say now they have nothing to do with Yisrael - so I do care, no matter if I am yet to finish the giyur, for it is haShem who decides and what happened to me seems like a miracle, to get to know your biological past means a lot. Among Yisrael there is hardly someone with no goyish blood. Think about it: you also descend from gerim. Even Cohanim have paternal lines originating from different males where the difference arose more than 10 000 years ago. So - who is the real Jew then?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-31346931663120766832012-03-18T04:37:01.425+02:002012-03-18T04:37:01.425+02:00I just wanted to let you know I am a child of divo...I just wanted to let you know I am a child of divorced parents. Nothing was more painful than my family being torn apart in a bitter divorce. I was left without a whole family. Now as an adult I am determined not to let that happen to me and have begun to try to finally start a family of my own. However, because of people like you, it is hard for me to even get passed step one and meet an actual shidduch. It's c'mo saying you won't date a holocaust survivor- why do you cause all this pain to innocent children? All things being equal- why not dafka choose the person who has had no full family for so long and is looking to start a new one? If he has issues you realize later on, don't marry him. But to make it all the more harder for him to find someone is so wrong and your comment confirmed what I though was happening all this time. It is truly painful to read.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-72944541594488848462012-01-31T10:25:32.726+02:002012-01-31T10:25:32.726+02:001) My husband and I have been trying to convert fo...1) My husband and I have been trying to convert for almost 10 years. The main holdup is denominational issues. I want an orthodox conversion, because I (foolishly, I know) dream of my children having the opportunity of attending a good yeshiva if they want. My husband can't stand the idea of an orthodox conversion because of comments/ideas like this blogger's. He is angry about the way girls are spat upon in Israel by "men" in black hats. He wants a conserva...dox conversion, followed by the same observant, increasingly frum lifestyle we have had over the past several years. I'm close to agreeing with him.<br /><br />(2)To the person who feels the need to say that a shiksa would revert back, the "ש" word is pejorative term up there with the "n" word. It implies moral debasement. It's basically a meaner way of calling somebody a "skank ho." (a) Don't toss that word around loosely. If you dare insist on using that word to describe all gerah, you are intentionally being ignorant and racially prejudiced. (b) If you are not using that word to describe all gerah, then consider this: Assume somebody who is so-morally-debased-the-ש-word-should-apply-to-her somehow decides she wants to go to a beit din, and assume she somehow commits fraud or bribery on the court sufficient to get through her conversion. She's morally corrupt!!! Isn't it kind of a "duh" statement that she runs a high risk of recidivism?!? Why even bother making the point?!?<br /><br />(3) BUT, that is not most gerim. Most of us have had to give up former family and friends, completely overhaul our lifestyles, experience discrimination, hatred, bigotry from both sides of the fence. Yet we still manage to convert.<br /><br />You who are reading this: Are you an FFB? Please take a moment and imagine sitting your parents down. "Mom, dad, I'm converting to, e.g., Islam." Imagine their reaction. Imagine what lengths they would go to so you would change your mind. We withstand all of that and still manage to convert.<br /><br />I know another ger who took 20 years to get through the conversion process. That is 20 years where a VERY religious individual lived without a spiritual home. He lived in a nether-region--no longer a Christian, not yet a Jew. We aren't allowed to have study partners. We can get bounced from the shul we go to at any time, for any reason. We are constantly living in fear that the one thing that means the most to us in the whole wide world will be yanked out from under us. Yet we still manage to convert.<br /><br />Why? Because we love our G-d. Because we love his Torah. Because we love his people. We love you even when you are mean to us for no other reason than genetics. We love you even when you are mean to our children. I think that is why you are asked to love us. It is not because we are evil. It is because we loved you first.concernednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-59113460936157898542010-02-16T17:03:23.886+02:002010-02-16T17:03:23.886+02:00As someone whose initials are DK, and who comments...As someone whose initials are DK, and who comments here occasionally, I'd like to comment that this "DK" poster is not me.<br /><br />I find this post very disturbing, and think that it would do all of us good to consider the true feelings and motivations that we have regarding our children and marriage.Bruce Krulwichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16506129141459374630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-56094334853267632632010-02-16T16:20:29.537+02:002010-02-16T16:20:29.537+02:00DK:
I'll try it again. here is the direct lin...DK:<br /><br />I'll try it again. <a href="http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/709394/Rabbi_Aaron_Rakeffet-Rothkoff/1993-09-05_Shut'im_-_Responsa___5-Sept-93" rel="nofollow">here</a> is the direct link. If that doesn't work, go to the yutorah.org site and look for the 9/5/93 shiur in Mekorot entitled 'Shut"im.'efrexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11744652581528273281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-90422138082969236712010-02-16T09:57:29.557+02:002010-02-16T09:57:29.557+02:00And by the way: if it was "combustion" t...And by the way: if it was "combustion" that is forbidden, it would also be assur to bring iron into contact with water, since rosting is also a form of combustion, just a slower one.<br /><br />And I suppose that there are many combustion processes going on in the body, prompted perhaps by quick running, etc.combustionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-43064811242831968912010-02-16T06:32:17.920+02:002010-02-16T06:32:17.920+02:00I found this blog from another blog, so please for...I found this blog from another blog, so please forgive the intrusion. I cannot help but have an emotional reaction to your post. It actually makes my stomach turn. <br /><br />They should make everyone considering conversion read your post- let them understand what they are getting into. <br /><br />Look's like you're a guest poster, so you should be ashamed of yourself for putting this down in writing and the owner of this blog should be ashamed of himself for posting it. <br /><br />May the Holy One forgive you for both making me (who, by the way, is a convert who has been married to an "FFB" for almost a decade now) and other converts feel like second-class citizens when they read this. <br /><br />And PLEASE let me know your name so I can write it down and be sure that my beautiful sons never, ever have the chance to get set up with your daughters.amlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-85660903940264826712010-02-16T02:28:23.542+02:002010-02-16T02:28:23.542+02:00>>"mekubal said...
does that mean ...>><i>"mekubal said...<br /><br /> does that mean that low voltage circuits that you can't feel are permitted?<br /><br /> No. It would just be a cooler form of combustion to his view. Not everything combusts at temperatures high enough to painful to humans."</i><br /><br />Can we <b>please</b> just <b>drop</b> the silliness that electricity is somehow a form of actual <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire" rel="nofollow">combustion</a>? The very suggestion is just inane and absurd to anybody with even a 5th grade understanding of basic science. <br /><br />Electricity is not, and does not involve, the oxidation reaction of a fuel material with surrounding oxidizer (like oxygen), and the accompanying release of heat, light and exhaust materials.<br /><br />That isn't a comment in any form upon the halachic categorization of electricity by the majority of <i>talmidei chochomim</i>, but to claim that electricity is a <i>real-world</i> subset of fire is to claim that electricity is a form of energetic oxidation -- which it isn't.Wingatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12030762580783366778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-4179657679398210972010-02-15T12:12:31.020+02:002010-02-15T12:12:31.020+02:00Well, at least when the children go otd and their ...Well, at least when the children go otd and their own parents disown them (as happens quite too often), they will have somewhere to turn to.<br /><br />See the bright side in it.Trust?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-90372130853178503012010-02-14T22:55:51.015+02:002010-02-14T22:55:51.015+02:00Efrex 02/12/2009 5:51pm
The link to Rabbi Rakeffe...Efrex 02/12/2009 5:51pm<br /><br />The link to Rabbi Rakeffet did not post. Could you please try again?<br /><br />As I said before, I acknowledge that there are risks in any marriage that one parent will fall off the derech. <br /><br />However, when a mother is a giyoret, there is the additional risk of someone in some supposed position of authority <i>[may Hashem save all of Klal Yisrael from them]</i> interfering with the status of the marriage and of the children. Hopefully, someone will soon deal with this issue.DKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-64254647329321814922010-02-14T08:27:40.475+02:002010-02-14T08:27:40.475+02:00Excuse me, DT, I put through a comment where I quo...Excuse me, DT, I put through a comment where I quoted you saying that given a choice between a gyoress and an FFB, which would someone choose.<br /><br />I pointed out that there is very little likelihood of a sitiuation that you compare FFB and gyoress ceterus paribus. Therefore, it's a bad argument. FURTHERMORE, most gerim are 25 or older, even in their 30's, at which point, the pickin's of FFBs have been seriously slimmed out. Many of the FFB choices are divorcees at that age. So, there might be a comparison of a gyoress-never married no kids to an FFB divorced with one or two in tow.Michaltastikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358698308334285154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-174320150791535852010-02-14T08:09:07.831+02:002010-02-14T08:09:07.831+02:00Don't understand me:
So, what about the Jews w...Don't understand me:<br />So, what about the Jews who were nice and cozy here in the US during the war? I guess you should dismiss them, too. Another thing: many gerim (maybe 30-40%) are children of a Jewish father or grandfather. So some of them may have lost family members in the war, too. I don't know if it's true but my grandmother used to say that her father was in kindergarden with Hitler and that he beat up all the kids, including my great-grandfather. That may not be what your family experienced but, it's more than the Jews who were already here experienced. Besides which, Jews my age are far detached from that war, as seen by their spoiled nature.Michaltastikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358698308334285154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-84910604238852898842010-02-14T07:56:41.248+02:002010-02-14T07:56:41.248+02:00JG
"There are also Orthodox Rabbis who permit...JG<br />"There are also Orthodox Rabbis who permit one to set and turn off an alarm clock on Shabbat. See Rabbi Ovadia Yosef Yalkut Yosef Siman 252, 12. Rabbi Yosef permits a manual wind up alarm to be turned off on Shabbat. Rabbi Yosef says in the notes that even the Ashkenazic Jews permitted an alarm clock to be used in this way. "<br /><br />Ummm, that turns itself off so I don't know what you're talking about. Besides which, they MAKE Shabbos alarms which only go for a minute. Not to mention, many, but not all, alarm clocks will turn themselves off eventually if you don't touch them. I always thought Shabbos and kosher were great opportunities to teach children the importance of being disciplined. You guys just run for the heterim, don't you?Michaltastikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358698308334285154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-32642846135441589042010-02-14T07:50:51.027+02:002010-02-14T07:50:51.027+02:00"Shqueeze posted:
The line about children of..."Shqueeze posted:<br /><br />The line about children of divorced parents gravitating towards divorce was obnoxious, too. My parents were divorced."<br /><br />Actually, I think that was my line. <br /><br />I think if someone's child is still under 25, it's not so crazy if they want to be pick but, at 22 to 25, they have to loosen up and they have to continue to loosen up after that. The pickin's only get slimmer and slimmer. The options get worse, not better.Michaltastikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358698308334285154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-79717884558467846672010-02-14T06:16:34.723+02:002010-02-14T06:16:34.723+02:00DT: "But if you have on occasion a disagreeme...DT: "But if you have on occasion a disagreement then you get punished more."<br /><br />Yes, but every time you refrain from hurting your convert spouse with words, you get twice the reward, right (since you're fulfilling two negative mitzvot)? So wouldn't it even out?yeshayanoreply@blogger.com