tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post6075522277508394010..comments2024-03-29T12:21:24.976+03:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Satmar leadership enraged after girls visit IDF museumDaas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-72109198149467773132018-08-08T18:49:52.465+03:002018-08-08T18:49:52.465+03:00This is what I read many years ago, and it was pos...This is what I read many years ago, and it was possibly in the early days of the State. Imagine the Satmar and/or NK who do not recognize anything Israeli, so they are effectively palestinians who follow the Jewish faith. Palestinians can cross over the Jordanian border into the "west bank".<br />Again, i am talking about the most extreme. A Satmar businessman I met a few years ago was too busy being a shrewd businessman to have time to attack the Zionists :)Eddienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-33414525191255544762018-08-08T09:40:55.520+03:002018-08-08T09:40:55.520+03:00I've been on flights (Continental) to Ben Guri...I've been on flights (Continental) to Ben Gurion. Re Amman: That must be a new thing. What did they do before the peace treaty?Ben Waxmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-41497567974254377482018-08-06T17:38:28.036+03:002018-08-06T17:38:28.036+03:00do they still fly Royal Jordanian to Amman?do they still fly Royal Jordanian to Amman?Eddienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-1258094092775519962018-08-06T13:03:33.573+03:002018-08-06T13:03:33.573+03:00". So is it a purely dollar economy?"
N...". So is it a purely dollar economy?"<br /><br />Nope. I've been there I have no idea how many times and always pay in NIS.Ben Waxmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-74066748379337629952018-08-06T13:02:48.011+03:002018-08-06T13:02:48.011+03:00Gee I wonder why.Gee I wonder why.Ben Waxmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-60898530878924855912018-08-06T13:01:52.855+03:002018-08-06T13:01:52.855+03:00That is fine, as long as everyone understands that...That is fine, as long as everyone understands that the restrictions are a joke and have no effect in reality; one big "k'ilu we boycott state institutions".Ben Waxmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-13083103249596200592018-08-06T12:47:01.249+03:002018-08-06T12:47:01.249+03:00they can find an excuse for anything
when they sta...they can find an excuse for anything<br />when they start serving in the army, they will say the British had an army here, and in Hungary they served in the Hungarian army when press ganged, so this is no different...Eddienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-48685924946644307892018-08-06T08:07:14.665+03:002018-08-06T08:07:14.665+03:00eddie, no it isn't. That is the point. The old...eddie, no it isn't. That is the point. The old British train went from Talpiot to Malka and through the mountains. The new train is a completely new path having absolutely nothing to do with the old line.Ben Waxmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-58721826558787289922018-08-06T01:09:43.021+03:002018-08-06T01:09:43.021+03:00he is saying they had this infrastructure under th...he is saying they had this infrastructure under the British and Ottomans. The new train line is just a faster version of the Ottoman line :)Eddienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-80816651862013379492018-08-06T00:14:13.909+03:002018-08-06T00:14:13.909+03:00Rav Amram Bloi issued his own currency, exchangeab...Rav Amram Bloi issued his own currency, exchangeable at a particular shtieble between 8PM and 10PM.<br /><br />Supposedly, no one ever went to exchange it.MiMedinat_HaYamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-9372828920800780372018-08-05T16:54:56.797+03:002018-08-05T16:54:56.797+03:00So when the new train line to tel Aviv opens in th...So when the new train line to tel Aviv opens in the fall, satmar won't use it?Ben Waxmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-40370027834023040232018-08-03T14:54:22.716+03:002018-08-03T14:54:22.716+03:00municipal elections?
I heard that many Years ago, ...municipal elections?<br />I heard that many Years ago, they would not use the State currency in mea Shearim. So is it a purely dollar economy? Even in the Palestinian territories, Hama and PA use shekels as their currency .Eddienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-9196714964146555232018-08-03T08:15:41.875+03:002018-08-03T08:15:41.875+03:00I don't know the exact parameters, but they ha...I don't know the exact parameters, but they have certain guidelines on those issues. Roughly (but probably not exactly) speaking, I think it somewhat works out to if it is a service or function that pre-existed the State, they'll utilize it. While they do not vote in state elections, they do vote in municipal elections. The roads, utilities, even the airport all existed under the British Mandate, even if they've obviously been improved upon since.Moe Ginsburgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-31163493423886209502018-08-03T07:51:23.875+03:002018-08-03T07:51:23.875+03:00Point taken.
If the girls got wind of the discont...Point taken.<br /><br />If the girls got wind of the discontent, it would help to reinforce the message they've presumably been taught to stay far away from the trappings of the State to the extent possible.<br /><br />I don't envy the Satmar for having that policy of not engaging with the State. Where do they draw the line? They can't totally disengage -- that would necessitate not using the roads, the money, the utlities like water and electricity, as well as never calling the police.<br /><br />Ultimately, they can be congratulated for their effort to remain untouched by the State but ultimately they are immersed in it, whether they like it or not.Joseph Orlowhttp://www.journalinginamerica.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-17778800806775763842018-08-03T07:37:31.004+03:002018-08-03T07:37:31.004+03:00The steadfastedness is that this occurrence bother...The steadfastedness is that this occurrence bothered then rather than simply writing it off as a not-so-bad incident that could be ignored but would, with time, eventually weaken their shitta.Moe Ginsburgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-20198320158752357892018-08-03T05:45:32.525+03:002018-08-03T05:45:32.525+03:00If their parents own enough real estate, it's ...If their parents own enough real estate, it's not a problem.MiMedinat_HaYamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-9568341918243016522018-08-03T05:30:27.052+03:002018-08-03T05:30:27.052+03:00A plain reading of the story indicates that some p...A plain reading of the story indicates that some people may have jumped to a conclusion.<br /><br />Either that, or some people justifying the walk through the museum are lying.<br /><br />It's just a news report. So I don't want to read too much into it. But my first reaction wasn't people standing steadfast. It was more people engaging purity spiraling.<br /><br />Unless you are being sarcastic and I missed it.<br /><br />Just saying.Joseph Orlowhttp://www.journalinginamerica.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-8229133472070342552018-08-03T04:35:26.132+03:002018-08-03T04:35:26.132+03:00Baruch Hashem that there are still people who stea...Baruch Hashem that there are still people who steadfastedly stand by their Torah true hashkafos.Moe Ginsburgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-33082546434951048662018-08-02T20:26:44.573+03:002018-08-02T20:26:44.573+03:00WHO WILL MARRY THEM NOW???WHO WILL MARRY THEM <i>NOW</i>???Joseph Orlowhttp://www.journalinginamerica.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com