tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post6048532405576159301..comments2024-03-28T02:08:17.990+02:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Psychology of Evil - Milgram study IIDaas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-15212727877396644302008-12-30T12:44:00.000+02:002008-12-30T12:44:00.000+02:00The same goes about believing stories about sexual...The same goes about believing stories about sexual abuse:<BR/>If you like the alleged offender, you will not believe it. If the alleged offender is indifferent to you, you will believe the victim.<BR/><BR/>That's why, if sexual abuse happens within the family, it is better to reveal it first to outsiders, and to get some support from outside the family before revealing it to the "inner circle".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-16000338552126307682008-12-30T12:39:00.000+02:002008-12-30T12:39:00.000+02:00micha said... Back in HS in the 70s, R' Chaim O...micha said...<BR/><BR/> Back in HS in the 70s, R' Chaim Ozer Chait took us to the lab and had us experimentally measure yad soledes bo. We heated beakers of water to see how much heat a hand could tolerate.<BR/><BR/> Our results were around 130-135 degF when reflex kicks in. Vindicating R' Moshe, IIRC.<BR/><BR/> However, if you put your hand in before the water gets hot, and leave it there while it heats, the result is more than 25 degF higher. (It varied a lot by person.)<BR/>================<BR/>The same seems to be regarding abuse - if you are in the situation then it is not as much a stretch to tolerate them then if you are an outsider. That is why outside observers are puzzled why people stay in abusive relationships. They usually don't start off as abusive. If they did they would not last long.Daas Torahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-4995029450487534332008-12-30T12:24:00.000+02:002008-12-30T12:24:00.000+02:00Back in HS in the 70s, R' Chaim Ozer Chait took us...Back in HS in the 70s, R' Chaim Ozer Chait took us to the lab and had us experimentally measure yad soledes bo. We heated beakers of water to see how much heat a hand could tolerate.<BR/><BR/>Our results were around 130-135 degF when reflex kicks in. Vindicating R' Moshe, IIRC.<BR/><BR/>However, if you put your hand in before the water gets hot, and leave it there while it heats, the result is more than 25 degF higher. (It varied a lot by person.)<BR/><BR/>Dr Burger's explanation sounds similar.<BR/><BR/>-michamichahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13610506439687098313noreply@blogger.com