tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post5442229556365535673..comments2024-03-28T21:30:33.665+02:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: New rabbinical court aims to empower agunotDaas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-62982960314403536242013-12-16T08:35:05.933+02:002013-12-16T08:35:05.933+02:00Emes L'Yaacov - kol ha'kavod for your posi...Emes L'Yaacov - kol ha'kavod for your position against arbitrary divorce from both sides. This is the crux of the debate: Is the integrity of Jewish marriage held accountable to a higher standard than a society that lauds no-fault-divorce?yyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07148467161702064439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-24912337752271102132013-12-13T05:43:23.547+02:002013-12-13T05:43:23.547+02:00R' Eidensohn, was there a reason my reply was...R' Eidensohn, was there a reason my reply was rejected or was there simply a technical/user error?Yirmiahuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04967448425332780399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-54427788375467879212013-12-12T21:38:25.616+02:002013-12-12T21:38:25.616+02:00If we had a major kashrus crisis, the first hashgo...If we had a major kashrus crisis, the first hashgocha I would want to eat from is "the Hashgocha that's out to eliminate all possibility of treif". They'd be biased as well, and I would probably wind up paying extra money, and perfectly kosher businesses would lose business, etc. I would still definitely use that hashgocha and probably no others. Maybe you wouldn't.Daniel Rogoffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-75451968569137357072013-12-12T21:35:38.614+02:002013-12-12T21:35:38.614+02:00Prove it.Prove it.Daniel Rogoffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-64355091642524898882013-12-12T21:34:20.819+02:002013-12-12T21:34:20.819+02:00I learned with him for two years. During that time...I learned with him for two years. During that time he was openly and harshly critical of the Rackman beis din whenever it came up. You're being motzi shem ra on a major talmid chochom.Daniel Rogoffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-25272583590700840132013-12-11T16:55:21.491+02:002013-12-11T16:55:21.491+02:00Relatives of mine davened at Rabbi Krauss's sh...Relatives of mine davened at Rabbi Krauss's shul and I had the misfortune of hearing some of his opinions. Nothing good can come of this venture.tzoorbanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-23911539379985362812013-12-11T16:04:50.009+02:002013-12-11T16:04:50.009+02:00EML, where's your evidence? And by the way, Ra...EML, where's your evidence? And by the way, Rabbi Krauss is a top rate תלמיד חכם. Have some respect for Torah.Ephraimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-48705293801570827572013-12-11T15:02:29.346+02:002013-12-11T15:02:29.346+02:00This is an interesting article about secular Kibbu...This is an interesting article about secular Kibbutzim<br />http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/the-israeli-reformation/1.561772<br /><br />The congregations and rabbis may be reform/conservative, but that is surely better than secularism, or several steps towards torah observance.<br />The kibbutzim, instead of eating treif on yom kippur are now having kol nidrei.<br /><br />can't be all bad.Ben MIkrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07122937371918515052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-71733936522014185762013-12-11T07:27:57.564+02:002013-12-11T07:27:57.564+02:00Krauss is known for the Rackman "afkinan raba...Krauss is known for the Rackman "afkinan rabanan likidudhin minei." He's the mamzer makerEMLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03899920219813522485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-16420287848539161342013-12-11T05:59:25.542+02:002013-12-11T05:59:25.542+02:00@Yirmiahu - Torah law does not oppress women and g...@Yirmiahu - Torah law does not oppress women and give all the power to the husband as the feminist media manipulators would have you believe. <br /><br />"One of the important changes in divorce law resulted from the decree of Rabbeinu Gershom that a woman can not be divorced against her will - despite the fact that she can be divorced against her will according to Torah law."<br /><br />http://daattorah.blogspot.com/2012/05/wife-divorced-against-her-will-status.htmlEmesLeYaacovnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-67835144827874749452013-12-11T01:54:36.467+02:002013-12-11T01:54:36.467+02:00If they could only spare their efforts and help so...If they could only spare their efforts and help solve the Children's rape Crisis that would be not only Door openers but Closet openers as well. They can open branches on all five Continents, and have the support of the Haredi community at large as well. The numbers are real, and big, and they are with tragic consequences,” the victims are maimed for life, most resort to drugs, many commit suicide in order to escape their misery. The victims family also are victimized by these enablers or anyone extending a helping hand are terrorized, and chased out of town. The number of victims multiply tangentially as an inverted pyramid, no Beis Din wants to deal with these victims, they are hefker and fair game for anyone that wants to take advantage of them. They are expendable Ke'even asher ein lo hofchin. We need to act swiftly and form systematic halachic solutions withe heters of meah ra banim bekuf nun taamim before more victims are befallen. There have been suggestions by epstein and wolmark with heavy experience under their black belt, as Dayan, ZABLA, Blah Blah and executioner in their past, all in one and all by himself, to use Rods and Prods amongst many other combat tactics, that will leave the perpetrators with no choice but to comply.spare the prod and spoil the childnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-36556983006442768252013-12-11T01:43:28.688+02:002013-12-11T01:43:28.688+02:00Those rabbonim do NOT support this new initiative ...Those rabbonim do NOT support this new initiative by Krauss.Daovnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-73615735302011746242013-12-11T01:21:05.567+02:002013-12-11T01:21:05.567+02:00rav krauss was a dayan on the igud, together with ...rav krauss was a dayan on the igud, together with kurzrock, epstein, and wolmark.<br /><br />nevertheless, these are impressive names (rav shaar yashuv cohen and RZNG, if true, are impressive, but who will ne the "local" us based dayanim? and what will; be the policy? this needs to be published. they prob wont, since they want to get the business from jofa.MiMedinat HaYamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-45613485388380692502013-12-11T01:14:40.531+02:002013-12-11T01:14:40.531+02:00"I completely accept the normative halachic o..."I completely accept the normative halachic opinions that prohibit Jewish husbands from arbitrarily divorcing their wives"<br /><br />Such as?Yirmiahuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04967448425332780399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-29797643146086827952013-12-10T21:41:17.304+02:002013-12-10T21:41:17.304+02:00Stan, you are predicting what the BD will do in th...Stan, you are predicting what the BD will do in the future. All i am saying is to wait an see what they do, then make your comments. Sounds fair?Ben MIkrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07122937371918515052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-57652270142421041272013-12-10T20:52:45.140+02:002013-12-10T20:52:45.140+02:00So then why not do away with the Ketubah in toto. ...So then why not do away with the Ketubah in toto. This was set down so that yiddishe botim should not be falling apart at its seams, period. When the husband wants out, the Torah asks for a cause and condition before doing so. The wife cannot wish out either just because she so demands. There is another party also in the mix, the children. The Torah set down its rules to build and rules to prevent from destruction by either party. Anyone trying to outsmart the Torah is not only a fool, but also responsible for mass destruction of the family unit. There is no such thing as a no-fault Get, and both have a responsibility to contribute positively for its success. The party responsible for its failure should clearly not be a chote veniskar, and definitely not awarded as if an Agunah just by moving out without good cause and permission from a Beit Din. That is clearly a Moredes. Before giving a Psak for a chiyuv Get, the party at fault must take full responsibility, pay damages and compromise on custody as beis Din sees fit for the benefit of the children, no chaperlach, no campaign smearing. Bechol chomer hadin, they should provide a Get mehuder beli shum taaruves vechashash of a GET MEUSSE just like when they collect their hechsher monies placated in Kiddush Levana letters, LEAFRISHE MEISSURE to make sure everyone eats only from their mehadrin min hamehadrin min hamehadrin, and please stay away from mamzer factories, ORA's and PROD gittins. There also must be a standard fee and not extortion prices. If you think you came to save ceaser having an Agunah crisis on hand, wait till you see the results of this door opener and eye opener of Tza'akas lebedige Yesomim factory crisis. When counting down how many true and justified Agunah's are around, you will not find a dozen - ulay yechserin chamisha. There is no true demand for RA BONIM fixing something that ain't even broke. Im ken lama ze anochi, ma hoilu chachomim bitkantom?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-35385989931455150572013-12-10T20:09:13.251+02:002013-12-10T20:09:13.251+02:00They don't need R' ZNG haskomo. They alrea...They don't need R' ZNG haskomo. They already have the implicit haskomoh of all the signers of the kol koreh against AMW. freddienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-71578630200962693362013-12-10T19:34:18.446+02:002013-12-10T19:34:18.446+02:00@Yirmiahu - "you express no such consternatio...@Yirmiahu - "you express no such consternation with divorce on demand so long as it the male making the demand" - Your claim is really bogus.<br /><br />I completely accept the normative halachic opinions that prohibit Jewish husbands from arbitrarily divorcing their wives, just as I completely accept the normative halachic opinions that prohibit Jewish wives from arbitrarily divorcing their husbands. I never condoned any divorce on demand, by either the husband or wife.<br /><br />If one honestly compares the positions of the allegedly misogynist Chareidi rabbis to the positions of the allegedly centrist feminist agunah "rabbis", in fact the Chareidi rabbis maintain the moderate, rational, and non-sexist positions. <br /><br />The YU/MO/ORA/pseudo-Chareidi theologians in lieu of rabbis are the true anti-male sexist extremists and are centrist in name only.EmesLeYaacovnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-58422725884583404402013-12-10T19:31:13.956+02:002013-12-10T19:31:13.956+02:00While it remains to be seen what procedures this n...While it remains to be seen what procedures this new beis din will use, the fact that they are calling themselves the "beis din to free agunos" is disturbing. A beis din is supposed to neutrally adjudicate between both sides and come out with a just decision, not prejudge that one side is right before it even hears from anyone.<br /><br />Imagine someone were to set up a beis din to decide monetary cases which called itself "The Beis Din to help victims of nezikin collect from the mazik" or "The Beis din to help owners collect from the Four Shomrim." The very name suggests a bias towards one side of a common dispute. Tal Benscharnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-36151458042691513002013-12-10T18:52:31.811+02:002013-12-10T18:52:31.811+02:00It is actually a lie that Rav ZN Goldberg supports...It is actually a lie that Rav ZN Goldberg supports this venture. The Jewish Week anti-Orthodox rag is well noted for lying about Orthodox issues. This was verified yesterday with Rav Zalman Nechemia.Avrohom Shainernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-45638386633320796152013-12-10T18:00:33.026+02:002013-12-10T18:00:33.026+02:00Eddie you get rational. Where did I say what you a...Eddie you get rational. Where did I say what you alleged I said. Secondly, the case that R Dovid E is referring to does not involve a giyores. Get your facts straight Eddie. This appears to be a recurring problem with you.stannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-23940635770690488212013-12-10T17:39:29.364+02:002013-12-10T17:39:29.364+02:00How can you say something like that about Rav Zalm...How can you say something like that about Rav Zalman Nehemia? His integrity and Gadlus is beyond dispute.Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-32085189242830957982013-12-10T17:21:49.067+02:002013-12-10T17:21:49.067+02:00"Feminist divorce on demand is now the New Ag..."Feminist divorce on demand is now the New Age Reformadoxy to replace the obsolete, regressive Bronze Age Patriarchal Judaism"<br /><br />Your adoption of the evangelical buzzword "divorce on demand" is hypocritical because unlike they who wish for everyone to have a harder time dissolving, you express no such consternation with divorce on demand so long as it the male making the demand.<br /><br />So while you presume the handle "Emes l'Yaakov" the "emes" is that you have no problem with "divorce on demand" just on a woman's ability to demand a divorce.Yirmiahuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04967448425332780399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-65998709446403157552013-12-10T17:09:06.540+02:002013-12-10T17:09:06.540+02:00Ben,
maybe o maybe not. You need to see what pis...Ben,<br /><br />maybe o maybe not. You need to see what piskei din will be produced by r Krauss, and what RZNG writes and if he agrees about them. <br />The problem with the Rackman court was that there was no established Dayanim in it. RZNG is very great. I am not supporting it, but I am aksing not to pre-judge.<br /><br />Ben MIkrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07122937371918515052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-76022503254171086162013-12-10T16:31:32.633+02:002013-12-10T16:31:32.633+02:00This is just another Rackman type so-called "...This is just another <b>Rackman</b> type so-called "beis din". Rackman was JOFA and this junk is JOFA. It'ss go down to the same dead end as Rackman did.<br /><br />If any woman is stupid enough to "remarry" after this kangaroo court gives her a heter, she'll simply have mamzeirim on her hand.Ben Torahnoreply@blogger.com