tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post460209102444635937..comments2024-03-28T02:08:17.990+02:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Lakewood rabbi admits to plot to kidnap Orthodox Jewish man to force religious divorceDaas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-29535575578205526932014-05-14T19:20:47.924+03:002014-05-14T19:20:47.924+03:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Monseynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-37907066322692706882014-05-13T23:48:27.697+03:002014-05-13T23:48:27.697+03:00באר? I hope he doesn't write gittin if that...באר? I hope he doesn't write gittin if that's how he spells the name Ber.<br /><br />I know that R. C; Kinievsky is one of the gedolai hador in learning, but I've seen some strange eitzos from him in mili d'alma. Does he have practicle knowledge also?<br /><br />Besides, this is a leading question. What if it's not true that the Dayan did such things. Then the answer would be different, wouldn't it?Humble Jewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-86615602514074320332014-05-12T20:08:04.326+03:002014-05-12T20:08:04.326+03:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Monsey dwellernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-31012383581418810672014-05-12T12:39:32.447+03:002014-05-12T12:39:32.447+03:00Kol kore is not the exact right term here, since i...Kol kore is not the exact right term here, since it was not the call of many as one unit. Rather, what we had is that the genuine Top RASHKEBEHA"G leaders separately each in their own names went directly to the culprits and took matter in their own hand by writing to them, ordering them to STOP these gross violations. You have seen the Psak from R' Elyashiv, R' Chaim Kanievsky, Eida hachreidis Be"Datz etc. in writing as well as the tremendous input of this very Blog. These are not the nimushim shebenimushim that would sell out Torah for esrim kosef or baad na'alayim to be megaleh ponim baTorah, they are our true Giants. We the people, neemon laH' vetoirosoi need to speak up and raise our voices, magnify berabim, that what these ra bonim commit, or when they are taking sides "LECHPOS" bnei mishpachto, and it does have an effect and does take it's toll. We have seen that by the fiasco of Weberman, Epstein & Wolmark, and the Dodelson etc. turn the tide. These kol korenikes have been proven to be wrong, off the Derech, until Didan Notzach. But until the masses did not go out bechutzot to protest, "Hashochad yeaver ruled". That is why it is SO important for us Klall Yisrael to carry the message, and not sit idly by while the Shuolim are mechablim bakromim. Hope this helps.true manhigei uPoskei haDORnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-14969594562555226272014-05-11T23:57:40.345+03:002014-05-11T23:57:40.345+03:00I think I agree with you, but I just don't see...I think I agree with you, but I just don't see why a kol koreh will do anything. The same rabbis sign onto .... you get my point. Consider the recent dodelson case.realistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-90339043477553291722014-05-11T17:52:05.374+03:002014-05-11T17:52:05.374+03:00@ realist May 11, 2014 at 5:20 AM
Hakol lefi hame...@ realist May 11, 2014 at 5:20 AM<br /><br />Hakol lefi hamevayesh... if the people read the Kol Kore and see what these thugs inflict onto Judaism physically and spiritually, who knows if chas vesholom it can happen to your own one day. I beg you please,"Hibodlu mitoch hoeido hazois, suru na meal oholei hoanoshim horshoim hoele veal tigu bechol asher lohem pen tisofu bechol chatoisom. Vayerdu hem vechol asher lohem, veyordu chayim sheoilo vidaatem ki niatzu haele es hashem." Open up your eyes and see what happened nebach to R' A. Rubin Hashem yerachem. These yedayim yedei esiav yedehem mleu dom, not only herimu yad al nefesh beyisroel vehiku "bemakas achzoriyos vos men hot noch azayns nit gezehn", but herimu yad gam beToras Moshe veokru perek echod al issur eishes ish, veperek echod leharbos mamzerim beyisrael. Was this because they sympathized with these alleged agunos, did they do it because kol kevonosom leshem shamayim? <br /><br />Shoymu Shamayim!!!<br />They merely did it for the $100,000 a bang, indeed, a big bang for the buck. The egel hazohov, they would sell out even their own mothers and even on Mothers Day, all for the mighty Dollar. What a charpeh und a shande. Did anybody open a mouth and ask Hayitochen? No, they were all in it in cahoots, ve'ein poitze peh umtzaftzef, everyone got a bit of the pie, veochlu bei kurtze veyisbou, delicious cookies, begushpanke deman malchei- ra bonon. Rosho Rosho, lomoh s'akeh reacho?? The poor victim was crying from pain, pain of the makos retzach from the Kalgassim, and pain from tzaar bonim asher gozlu mitachas kpaois yodov, oy vey vey... "BONECHO UVNOISECHO NESUNIM LEAM ACHEIR VE'EINCHO ROIYOS VECHOLOIS ALEIHEM KOL HAYOIM - OY GEVALD GEVALD - V-E-I-N L-O-E-L Y-O-D-E-C-H-O. " Er ken nebach gornisht ton, men hot ehm gebinden di oygen, gebinden hent und fiss, und gevorfen in pischoi shel "bar minons" tzebluttet fun kop biz fiss leof hashamayim ulbehemas hasodeh! Can't you you feel his pain?<br />He was nebech all by himself, he against the world. Korosi ve'ein oineh, NOBODY but NOBODY heeded his cry. Al kein, NEVER AGAIN. We will not sit beozlat yad. Klal Yisroel will join in together, Vayaanu kol ho'om yachdov vayoimru naaseh venishma, ke'ish echod ubelev echod. We will not stand idly by in the spilling of our brothers blood. United we stand, and B'H' got the PLISHTIM OLECHO, BULVANESS! Did I hear you right? Kol de'alim Gvar? Huh? You can run, but you cannot hide. The feds will whip ass, blacken your eyes, throw the book at you, "can" you in the chad gadyo for the rest of your life and throw away the key. Bagodol hechel ubakotoin kolo ad tumom, so that we shall see who is Tattele. Who said Kol Kore's don't work? AND HOW!!! BIG TIME!!!Who said Kol Kore's don't work? AND HOW!!! BIG TIME!!!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-1450590220037095572014-05-11T05:20:57.098+03:002014-05-11T05:20:57.098+03:00I still don't understand your thinking. Who l...I still don't understand your thinking. Who listens to kol koreh's?realistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-61956850520784395712014-05-09T20:00:52.469+03:002014-05-09T20:00:52.469+03:00@ Emes & Humble,
You both seem very baffled. ...@ Emes & Humble,<br /><br />You both seem very baffled. It so states in the posuk, "Vehoyiso meshugo mimareh einecho", these bulvanes interpret it as a Mitzvos Esse of the TARYAG mitzvos, kedemetzinu "Vehoyiso ach someach"! Ach ach ach... and you thought it's all a joke. There are some that know how to be megaleh tefach umchasse tfachayim, and those that know how to be megaleh ponim batoiroh shelo kehalocheh with a straight face, " vaasher koach bohem laamod behichal hamelech", (see daniel 1:4 meforshim) ad shyofiach hayom venossu hatzlolim, vehoven ki omuk hu. <br />Asher yikore lecho beachris hayomimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-85756515726951159022014-05-09T14:21:47.031+03:002014-05-09T14:21:47.031+03:00Tuesday, January 7, 2014
Tamar Epstein's testi...Tuesday, January 7, 2014<br />Tamar Epstein's testimony proves that there is no basis for annulment and she is still married<br />As I have noted, Tamar Epstein has declared that she is freed from her marriage to Aharon Friedman - despite not having received a Get. The only basis for such a claim according to the view of Rav Moshe Feinstin - is only if her husband had a pre-existing condition - that she was unaware of - that no normal woman would be able to put up with and that she left immediately upon discovering this condition. All three conditions must be met for a valid annulment.<br /><br /><br />The following words of Tamar are part of the court record and were shown to the Baltimore beis din and have been acknowledged as valid by Tamar Epstein. She said she wrote them shortly before she abandoned Aharon taking their child to live with her parents. I challenge anyone to find any evidence that she viewed that Aharon had a pre-existing condition such as severe mental or physical illness which she had been unaware of and that she viewed living with him something no normal woman would be able to do.<br /><br /><br />It is clear that she decided that despite having at least a minimally acceptable marriage - which could be significantly improved through therapy - she didn't want to invest the time and energy because she thought she could do better. No competent and unbiased rabbinical authority would annul such a marriage. Thus she is still married to Aharon Friedman<br /><br /><br />==================transcipt of Tamar's document============<br />...<br />The PURIM pilpul went like this. If the husband has a deffect that was unknown, that is a cause to declare a mekach to'es. And if, after the husband has been asked to give a Get on demand but refused, he is a SADIST, and sadist is a deffect, and this deffect has not been known in prior, hence Mekach tochess. If you will, here is another one. The chelemer chochom asks her, does your husband like to eat falafel in the weekdays, she replies Yes. Then comes the clincher, had you known that he likes to eat falafel in the weekdays, would you have still married him? Of course, the correct answer would be "NO". Ahhhhhh.... declares the chelemer chochom, "in that case I declare this union null and void". And that's how the alleged "FANGUNOT" are demarried. If you happened to have a FILM from your Wedding, you can play it backwards, see how the groom removes the ring from her finger under the Chupah, puts it back into his pocket, both go back home whence they came from, and it's all over. FREE as vekoresem DROR, and you can sing DROR yikro levein uBas.<br />ELE manhigecho Yisrael. Oy ledor shekach olos lo beyomov.<br />NEUM: Ra BONIM al tikro ra ele ORA<br />PART II ELE manhigecho Yisrael. Oy ledor shekach olos lo beyomov.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-86782856797726533312014-05-09T14:21:04.595+03:002014-05-09T14:21:04.595+03:00They have allegedly been mafkia the kidushin lemaf...They have allegedly been mafkia the kidushin lemafrea as a mekach tochess. Just like doing a shailes chochem for hatores nedorim, such as, had you known that if it will rain tomorrow would you have still made that neder? You answer NO. And wallah, on the spot while you wait your neder has been dissolved into thin air, keilu lo hoyo velo nivro, velehevei hefker kearo demitzrayim, and YOU ARE FREE!<br /><br />In the Tamar Epstein fiasco, ORA has declared one calm day out of the blue, that TAMAR IS FREE without any further explanation, and when the husband was asked ma perusho, he had no clue. He said, as far as he was concerned, there was no GET. Read on... Once upon a time... After gathering a minyan of the Towns (clowns) elders, they opened up the seal of a barrel of Yoysher that the chelemer shlichei beis din have captured in the wild, made a brocho lifnei kohol veeido "Boruch matir (assurim) issurim", veonu kol hakekele kohol bekol rom yachdov, Amen veAmen. Hence, she is FREE, and Free for all. Afterwards, they made berov om the brocho of Asher Yotzar, because the stench of Yoysher stank to high heaven, Phooey. If you make on this blog page a search, it's all in there. As for a few examples, read the followings:<br /><br />DecTamar Epstein claims she is free - Daas Torah - Issues of ... 22, 2013<br />This week, the Organization for the Resolution of Agunot, or ORA, issued a flyer and fundraising call announcing that “Tamar is Free,” leading to an erroneous JTA report that Epstein's case was resolved with the awarding of a ...<br />http://daattorah.blogspot.com/<br />Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Tamar Epstein's ...Jan 07, 2014<br />ORA has publicly announced that Tamar is "free". As long as Herschel Schacter and the other ORA rabbis make no public protest against the "annulment", the frum olam has every right to assume that the ORA rabbis fully ...<br />http://daattorah.blogspot.com/<br /><br />********************************************************************************<br />PART I ELE manhigecho Yisrael. Oy ledor shekach olos lo beyomov.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-41487323094965674982014-05-09T05:07:13.605+03:002014-05-09T05:07:13.605+03:00I'll say it again and again. The internet is n...I'll say it again and again. The internet is not the problem. It's the daily chillul hashem. Every day there's a story in the papers of a frum Jew committing a crime. There's no kappora for chillul hashem until death.Humble Jewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-64933123451827804882014-05-09T05:05:00.307+03:002014-05-09T05:05:00.307+03:00What do you mean "doesn't need a get"...What do you mean "doesn't need a get"? What are you talking about?Humble Jewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-66000247389991795292014-05-09T04:18:03.902+03:002014-05-09T04:18:03.902+03:00Yes, if you Google them many of them have pictures...Yes, if you Google them many of them have pictures somewhere on the internet.Bulvannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-8906721895685199472014-05-09T02:48:21.688+03:002014-05-09T02:48:21.688+03:00tal b -- agreed. desperation, less culpable, et...tal b -- agreed. desperation, less culpable, etc refers to the amount of punishment, not to guilt or innocence. (though juries will take it into account.)<br /><br />either way, my point was that only one or two prosecutions are necessary to put a stop to this (for ten years or so. after that, another prosecution, etc.)<br /><br />that's like saying prosecute the mortgage fraudsters, but not the desparate, less culpable homeowner who participated in the mortgage fraud, (or arson fraudsters). (wait, the feds aren't prosecuting the mortgage banks, the attys; just the innocent little homeowner.)MiMedinat HaYamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-1763120830114435042014-05-08T20:44:34.724+03:002014-05-08T20:44:34.724+03:00R' Elyashiv has directed R' Dovid bichvodo...R' Elyashiv has directed R' Dovid bichvodo uvatzmo to be memuneh on Beis Din for inyanei Gittin, and as declared here now to be a Rosh Beis Din on Dinei Gittin, had shimush by R' Elyashiv. Do you want the minutes on it??? And if yes, would you then need sound proofed, huh?<br /><br />I have SEMICHA from Reb Moshe Feinstein zt"l that "he knows me many years as someone who penetrates deeply into difficult questions and clarifies them" and I have SEMICHA from Rav Yosef Shalom Elyashev zt"l to b a Rosh Beth Din using his name. You are asking leKanter, aren't you.R U from those that EIN DORSHIN SMICHOS ??? And make from Smichos hamLOTZESnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-73765230231141046892014-05-08T20:23:31.034+03:002014-05-08T20:23:31.034+03:00Read this on the latest saga on ORA, Ra leshomayim...Read this on the latest saga on ORA, Ra leshomayim, veRA labriyos. They concocted up a chicken and egg pilpulim shel dofi that is tartei desosrei and saruach meikro, holds no rhyme nor reason. It is the talmud that gives a moshol of when roeh tzon wants to punish the herd, takes the leader of the herd that carries a Bell on it's neck, blinds both of it's eyes and leads the whole herd into boiros upchosim. We heve merited so called leaders like a blinder Bock, that commit the worst kind in the name of tora. That is because we let them do Din Toras with the help of chabar under the counter, enable molesters to molest, some are molesters themselves, and so it goes. Rov pironyois come for setting dayonim s'heinom mehugonim. If you know what's good for us, we need to clean up this joint from all the way to the top ad dyuta hatachtoinoh. Chas vesholom if not, od meat veovodnu.They have no clue, velo yehei esek imohemnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-81923281525199838422014-05-08T17:32:32.912+03:002014-05-08T17:32:32.912+03:00Because the family is less culpable, by far. The ...Because the family is less culpable, by far. The family were in a difficult situation, and out of desperation they turned to a bunch of thugs to solve the problem through violence. Not admirable, but understandable. The thugs, OTOH, made a business of beating people up, and charged big money for it. They need severe punishment. <br /><br />(From a deterrence POV, I would agree that prosecuting the family would make sense, even if they got a light sentence -- a couple of years, or maybe even probation. A few of those would put this practice out of business.)Tal Benscharnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-42952773083675749142014-05-08T17:27:17.236+03:002014-05-08T17:27:17.236+03:00Are there any pictures of these thugs and cohorts ...Are there any pictures of these thugs and cohorts anywhere to be seen? I have only seen these top two Capos, Capo dei Capi and Capo di tutti capi, what about the rest of the goon squad, e.g. sofer umoinin es yisroel, karate chopper, cattle prodder expert, the chapper-ons, eye punchers, 30 gallon garbage baggers, lurers and trappers. If you know something, please say something. It would also be wise to have disclosed those ra bonim chachomim leheira and their harassing, bullying intimidators that use the services of Strong armed Shomrim, chaveirim (aka reim/roim vachatoim lahashem) and put these ENABLERS out of commission for good, uleMitzvo gedoiloh yechosheiv. With such chaveirim who needs sonim? These groups of thugs commit high crimes against humanity and against the law of the land in course of their maasseh taatuim and need to be put in check.<br />Vaad Arba arotzois, Sdom, Vaamoiro, Admo Utzvoyimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-21956432631005201392014-05-08T15:20:19.843+03:002014-05-08T15:20:19.843+03:00Eize hu chochom:
Having extensive involvement in ...Eize hu chochom:<br /><br />Having extensive involvement in gittin and divorcing couples, I agree that there are evil women who deny their husbands or ex-husbands access to the children, and this corruption sometimes has the blessings and assistance of rabbonim. However, there are also evil men who are bullies, abusive, and utilize the batei din and rabbonim to inflict torture on innocent women who are victims of their marriages and the "system". My experience does not allow me to find numbers favoring either direction of corruption, the men or the women. I firmly believe that those rabbonim who get involved in these subjects need to have experience, training, and supervision (transparency). Many do not.Just an askannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-5475920850211858992014-05-08T11:53:52.157+03:002014-05-08T11:53:52.157+03:00"he knows me many years as someone who penetr...<i>"he knows me many years as someone who penetrates deeply into difficult questions and clarifies them" and I have semicha from Rav Yosef Shalom Elyashev zt"l to b a Rosh Beth Din using his name.</i><br /><br />Do you have actual Yadin Yadin or even Yoreh Yoreh from either of these Gedolim... because it seems to me that you are once again claiming hamlatzot as semichot.Hamlatza Becomes Semichanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-34674294029364048762014-05-08T10:52:22.468+03:002014-05-08T10:52:22.468+03:00Reb Dovid,
Who are the "gedolei hador" ...Reb Dovid,<br /><br />Who are the "gedolei hador" that you deal with? Are you speaking about people who passed away 30 years ago?<br /><br />Who, in your opinion, is a godol nowadays?<br /><br />You may respond with a suckpuppet, if you so desire. Everyone a rosha gomur, besides for Nuchum!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-87715083952090520752014-05-08T04:38:46.267+03:002014-05-08T04:38:46.267+03:00It is surely a mitsvah to bang away at those who a...It is surely a mitsvah to bang away at those who are wicked and invent the Torah for their fantasies, but as long as there is not a strong positive Torah community with a program of teaching a true Torah it is what the Chofetz Chaim called "punching the darkness" and he said the only cure for darkness is to create a light. We therefore must light a candle. I am working on that in a few localities and I got berochose from some big people and some people are actually active and interested in doing something real. Baruch HaShem. Anyone interested can contact me at 845-578-1917.Dovid Eidensohnhttp://torahtimes.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-31810799213933267542014-05-08T00:24:44.103+03:002014-05-08T00:24:44.103+03:00These alleged leaders do not deal with this issue ...These alleged leaders do not deal with this issue objectively, they do take sides and are partial, gang up for a vendetta and not leshem shamayim, utilize ORA for character assassination, go to the extreme of megaleh ponim batorah shelo kehalacha. These are plain bullies and will go on as long as people don't raise their voices. None of them stood up against Epstein & Wolmark and their methods, using thugs and klei mashchis, veorav loi vekom olov same as the N.... R'L' . You can ignore them out of office and make them irrelevant. Asher yake es re'ehu basesernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-15565155987580302542014-05-08T00:03:15.339+03:002014-05-08T00:03:15.339+03:00doesnt need a get???? where do you hear this???doesnt need a get???? where do you hear this???emes vishalomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05491792782697272690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-4092807194162288832014-05-07T23:23:03.821+03:002014-05-07T23:23:03.821+03:00Visitor,
The head of a Beth Din called me after th...Visitor,<br />The head of a Beth Din called me after the Epstein arrest and wanted to say something negative. I told him that was not the way. We have to fight the evildoers and then fight tooth and nail to save the innocent victims he child and the wife. Basically the thrust must be that the wife must get a new GET even if there are reasons to accept the GET, simply because of laaz, that people will make comments on her marriage and children. If she can't get a GET she should still ask a shaalo and maybe something can be worked out. I succeeded with the worst Agunah cases in Monsey because I worked with senior rabbonim who backed me. The children are easier for reasons I won't go into here, but they have to have their name cleared if possible. There is an important teshuva from a great rishon that almost nobody knows about. Anyway, please contact me if you would like some help. At least I could try ot advise you where to go.Dovid Eidensohnhttp://torahtimes.comnoreply@blogger.com