tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post2485370976187565777..comments2024-03-28T02:08:17.990+02:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Anusim - An insider's protestDaas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-64512963910230649462009-02-23T16:22:00.000+02:002009-02-23T16:22:00.000+02:00If you cannot prove matrilineal Jewish descent you...If you cannot prove matrilineal Jewish descent you cannot document that you are Jewish. <BR/><BR/>Anusim are not singled out, all Jews need to document that they are Jewish in order to marry in Jewish communities throughout the world. (If you look at ketubot from pre Expulsion Spain, you will note that they typically document seven generations of lineage on the back.)<BR/><BR/>The Rabbi who married my husband and I knew our family for many many years, but when it came time to marry, I had to come with papers (ketubot, Chevra Hadisha certificates, and civil documents) to prove that I was Jewish. My husband had to bring the same to get married. <BR/><BR/>You ARE being treated no differently than other Jews.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-68458368081817390702009-02-23T15:25:00.000+02:002009-02-23T15:25:00.000+02:00The main problem with your argument is this. From...The main problem with your argument is this. From the time of Sinai by mesora and from the Great Assembly in writing, we have an unbroken tradition that one is to be considered a Jew if they can trace back an unbroken maternal lineage. The Anusim to my knowledge cannot do that.<BR/><BR/>This is not a bunch of "Kassers" saying this. It is also Sephardim, like myself, who do not view Anusim as fully having a connection with Judaism on these halachic grounds.<BR/><BR/>Now if you happen to be an <I>individual</I> from amongst the Anusim that can demonstrate the necessary ancestry. Welcome back to your people. However if you are only "Jewish" by word of mouth, or oral tradition, then I am afraid that this simply is not good enough to satisfy the demands of halacha. <BR/><BR/>This is not discrimination. Discrimination is applying certain rules only to certain peoples or minority groups. However, you will note in some of the discussions on this very blog how there have been times when even people of European decent have been excluded from the Jewish people on account of a lack of the proper lineage. Also if a Jew intermarries, his children will not be considered Jewish, depending on halachic interpretation they may even be denied the ability to convert in.<BR/><BR/>Simply this is not an issue of Anusim vs' Ashkanazim. This is an issue of Anusim vs' Two-Thousand plus years of codified halacha. Read even Rashi's commentary on Ezra-Nehemiah. It becomes quickly apparent that Ezra sorted out the varying "Jews" that lacked proper lineage. That was after only 70yrs of separation from their people and land. So why should the Anusim expect different treatment after hundreds of years ofMichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05953984031270306413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-17063116096280637592009-02-23T14:41:00.000+02:002009-02-23T14:41:00.000+02:00The problem that I see is that this person is upse...The problem that I see is that this person is upset and angry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com