tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post1594516323029053377..comments2024-03-28T02:08:17.990+02:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Nitei Gavriel:Not speaking to womenDaas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-7559053393510869422012-10-12T17:41:08.086+02:002012-10-12T17:41:08.086+02:00So let the men leave kollel and go to work and let...So let the men leave kollel and go to work and let the women stay home. Why are we training our Beis Yaakov and seminary girls to work and support their families while there husbands sit in kollel? The girls should be taught to stay home and marry working men.Lazernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-27582459800672653212012-10-12T03:30:44.012+02:002012-10-12T03:30:44.012+02:00Can we please get a translation or at least a syno...Can we please get a translation or at least a synopsis of what the Sefer says in the above quoted sections?Abenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-76317217542418179502012-10-12T02:56:54.284+02:002012-10-12T02:56:54.284+02:00If I was just translating the chapter heading you ...If I was just translating the chapter heading you are correct - however that is not the content of the chapter which is the reason I posted this. His second halacha states, "When a person can not avoid speaking with her [another's wife] he must minimize it to the degree possible."<br /><br />Thus this chapter is saying the ideal is not to speak with women - in contrast to the language of Avos 1:5 - "one should not speak excessively with his wife and surely not with another's wife."<br /><br />He also brings a source which laments the comfort most frum people have in talking with women - and that he claims is not the ideal state but because of the economic necessities of our society. It is clear that he holds that ideally women should stay home and have no contact with men and that men should have no contact with women other than their wives.<br /><br />Thus my point is that he is has a different understanding of Avos 1:5 then the Alshech and others have. This perhaps is reflected the question that Rav Menashe Klein raised as to whether the halacha is like Gittin 12 & Mahri Bruna - that a woman is not required to stay in the house or Yevamos 77a that she isDaas Torahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-38882326955716130182012-10-12T01:30:40.060+02:002012-10-12T01:30:40.060+02:00The tile for this posting is inaccurate. It should...The tile for this posting is inaccurate. It should read:<br /><br />Nitei Gavriel:Not speaking to women *excessively*IsraelReadernoreply@blogger.com