Sunday, August 1, 2010

Issac's maternal Grandparents petition to Supreme Cout of NY

TO: THE SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK,  COUNTY OF KINGS [November 2007]
The petition of ROSA DEBORAH GREHER and ELLIOTT ALVIN GREHER respectfully shows to this Court as follows:
1. The petition is made on behalf of ISAAC HERSH, born June 29, 1991,
who is detained by MICHAEL HERSH AND MIRIAM HERSH, parents of ISAAC HERSH, at Calbash Bay P.A., st. Elizabeth, in Jamaica. Petitioners are said child's maternal grandparents.
3. There is a custody proceeding before the Family Court of Kings County, Index number V-28271J2007, the respondents herein have abandoned their son, ISAAC HERSH and consented to a change in custody to the infants maternal aunt Elizabeth R. Cohen (see annexed as Exhibit "A" the signed stipulation).
4. On October 31, 2007. The Family Court issued an order, specifically, against the respondents to Produce ISAAC HERSH to the law guardian, at her office on November 6, 2007, at 4:00 P.M. To date said order has not been complied with.
5. The Family Court has presently set the matter on for a fact finding as to the best interest of the child. Said hearing is set for December 7. 2007, therefore, the status of ISAAC HERSH's custody remains undetermined.
6. The respondent's have abandoned ISAAC HERSH, they have a lengthy history of leaving this infant with strangers as his care takers, in lieu of his natural parents.
7. It is our fervent wish that ISAAC realize that not a/l of his family has abandoned him. We love him and wish to model for him what loving responsible grandparents can be like. We wish for him to know that we have not abandoned him.
8. We love all of our grandchildren, but respectfully recognize that as the status of ISAAC's custody remains uncertain, the Supreme Court is the proper venue to commence a visitation proceeding for ISAAC and not his siblings.
9. In 2006, The respondent's brought ISAAC HERSH to ZUCKER HILLSIDE
HOSPITAL, (hereinafter the ''facility'') a psychiatric hospital for a comprehensive evaluation. When the facility determined that there were no medical or psychiatric reasons for him to remain at said facility, the respondents refused to pick up. The respondent's alleged there was no proper place for him at home with them.
10. The facility notified the Department of Children'S Services because of the purported abandonment. The facility was finally able to place ISAAC with a loving, nurturing family in Houston Texas. The facility only came to learn about this placement through ISAAC himself. The facility made the appropriate background checks as to the viability of the placement and subsequently released our grandson once again to the care of strangers. Ultimately, this placement was short lived.
11. The respondents have presently placed ISAAC in Tranquility Bay an unlicensed, unregulated boot camp, which prohibits any outside contact from family members, specifically, Tranquility Bay proscribes visits from family members and prohibits phone calls. (annexed hereto as exhibit "B" are 2 emails that ISAAC has been able to write, delineating the horrors of Tranquility Bay and warning his twin brother SOL HERSH to avoid their father, referred to in the emails as "Michael")
12. The Department of State has issued specific warnings against placing children in boot camps outside the borders of the United States. The warning exist because such placements are dangerous and unregulated.
13. Congressman George Miller of the 7th Judicial District in California, is the Chairman of the Committee on Education and Labor has been conducting hearings in Washington on such placements, and has specifically, come out against Tranquility Bay. (annexed hereto collectively as exhibit "C" are a press release from Congressman George Miller on foreign boot camp and allegation of abuse and ongoing letters from Congressman George Miller and the GAO, Colin Powell, et al. requesting a formal investigation as to safety and regulation of foreign boot camps and the allegations of abuse towards children placed there.) 
17. Your petitioner has been denied visitation with their grandson, ISAAC HERSH, since July 2004.
18. That prior to July of 2004. My husband and I, had regular, ongoing, continuous phone conversations and in person visits with the respondents' and their children, Even when the respondents' moved to Israel during the years of 2002-2005, we made trips to Israel to visit with our grandson, ISAAC HERSH and his siblings. Since returning from Israel, the respondents have refused any and all communications with us.
19. Previously, before July of 2004, We came to visit regularly with the respondents' but now they have refused to visit with us, to talk on the telephone with us or even answer the door when we come to New York. My son in law respondent MICHAEL HERSH, has even forbidden his son ISAAC HERSH, from having any communication with us.
20. ISAAC HERSH despite being prohibited by his parents from having any communication with us, had secretly called us on a regular basis.
21. We have not seen our grandson, as aforesaid, since July of 2004,We
have tried everything to effect visitation and all attempts have been met with an outright refusal on the part of the defendants.
22. The defendants are extremely unstable. They have used everything in their power to turn our grandson against us.
23. We are requesting visitation with our grandson, the appointment of a Law Guardian and forensic evaluations of the parties and our grandchild by an Order of this court. We are also requesting that a law guardian be appointed so that the best interests of our grandson can be properly determined.

7 comments:

  1. 13952-3-64 hollywood flAugust 2, 2010 4:10 AM

    this is a horrible chillul HShem

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  2. ummm, first off, is this any of our business?

    Second, what in the world? He's 19, no? Why doesn't he just leave?

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  3. Recipients and PublicityAugust 2, 2010 8:28 AM

    "Michaltastik said...ummm, first off, is this any of our business? Second, what in the world? He's 19, no? Why doesn't he just leave?"

    Welcome Michal, but based on your comments here you haven't been following what's been happening. First, the parents of Isaac Hersh are as of this time suing almost all the people associated with helping Isaac find shelter, saving and rescuing him from the horrendous Tranquility Bay camp. They have hired expensive lawyers and are also suing various "John Doe" bloggers and have subpoenad Google and Yahoo and various blog owners including this one to release all their records about anyone who ever blogged on them.

    You will now be affected by their crazy demands simply by becoming part of this discussion on this blog!

    Please read up on it, it's all been posted and discussed in detail on this blog.

    So the parents of Isaac have chosen to make this a high-profile legal and information-age case and so it has become. It was their choice to do so and everything posted on this blog is basically a response by publishing the background verbatim to their frivolous litigation supported by their rabbi Rav Aron Schechter of the Chaim Berlin yeshiva in Brooklyn.

    Secondly, yes Isaac Hersh and his twin Sol are now 19, and would no doubt be more than happy that this matter be laid to rest once and for all, and that their parents take chill pills and cool it and NOT run around with proverbial hatchets trying to attack with lawyers anyone who had anything to do with helping their son Isaac, but nevertheless the parents have chosen to launch severe legal fights and now even demand $411 million in "damages" to add insult to injury.

    So please read up on what's been happening and your comments will then sound like they are informed and in context. Thanks so much.

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  4. Recepients and Publicity:

    Although you feel compelled to give condescending answers, I think Michaltastik hit the nail on the head:

    1) The children have atteined their majority of age, so there is not question any more about parental rights.

    2) It is really none of your business, once the child was rescued from tranquility bay (I agree that a public effort to rescue him from tranquility bay may be justified)

    3) Hersh sued bloggers because he thought that they were instrumental in making him loose his job.

    That is his good right within a democratic country.

    I think that he is way over the top with the reparation sum he demands (but then, the US are known for this kind of legal dispute and exagerated claims), but it is true that he lost money by losing his job, and if he convinces the judges that it was "the blogger's fault", it is OK that they should pay compensation.

    So what's your problem?

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  5. Recipients and PublicityAugust 3, 2010 6:22 AM

    "gioret said...Recepients and Publicity:"

    RaP: Hi gioret!

    "Although you feel compelled to give condescending answers, I think Michaltastik hit the nail on the head:"

    RaP: And here I thought I was being helpful. Tell me where and why you think I'm being "condescending" when she obviously hasn't read up on the case in its entirety judging by her comments.

    "1) The children have atteined their majority of age, so there is not question any more about parental rights."

    RaP: That is not the issue here. Regardless of the children, who will in all probability be brought in to testify against their parents which will be very shameful for all of them the children are not the issue at the present time. It is the case the parents are making now against the universe who opposed them when they sent Isaac to Tranquility Bay against his will. This has required an proper understanding of the background and this why information is being published to shed light on the current case, not on parental rights.

    "2) It is really none of your business, once the child was rescued from tranquility bay (I agree that a public effort to rescue him from tranquility bay may be justified)"

    RaP: Sure, everyone would be very happy if this case was closed. But Hersh supported by his rabbi now want to sue almost anyone who helped rescue Isaac that has brought the entire matter back to life. You are also involved because their case wants to know ho you are by commenting on this blog. That's how crazy this situation really is.

    "3) Hersh sued bloggers because he thought that they were instrumental in making him loose his job."

    RaP: Wrong! Hersh is suing his wife's family, her two sisters and their husbands, and a bunch of rabbis and community activists who rescued or gave shelter his son Isaac. He claims that they are also behind the blogs and comments online against him, so he has included blogs and bloggers as part of his attempt to find out if his wife's relatives, his former friends and his rabbis who helped him are also involved with blogs against him, which is really quite paranoid and yet has hired lawyers, with the help of ANONYMOUS DONORS probably from the Chaim Berlin yeshiva to finance his jihad against his perceived enemies.

    "That is his good right within a democratic country."

    RaP: Sure, can't argue with that. People have every right to make total fools out of themselves and pay expensive lawyers who don't mind looking the fool's advocates as long as they get paid their hefty fees.

    "I think that he is way over the top with the reparation sum he demands"

    RaP: at least you start to see some problems with his views, It's a good start.

    "(but then, the US are known for this kind of legal dispute and exagerated claims),"

    RaP: So what? Since when does a Torah Jew do such things to his own family and to Orthodox rabbis who helped his sons? What jury or judge will sympathize with what he did to cause this outpouring of concern for his abused kids?

    "but it is true that he lost money by losing his job, and if he convinces the judges that it was "the blogger's fault", it is OK that they should pay compensation."

    RaP: Rubbish! He cause his own downfall. He was working for Hatzala whose mission statement is to save lives, they break Shabbat to do so all the time, and not to endanger lives especially not his own child's life by sending him to a dangerous camp run my Mormons on Jamaica to beat kids to a pulp.

    "So what's your problem?"

    RaP: None. I am obviously just a concerned blogger. Is that "illegal"?

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  6. dear rap: you are obviously not "just a concerned blogger" you seem more like a defendant in the case!!

    so sorry you are getting kicked in the rear end..

    can't stand the heat you should have never gotten in to to the kitchen to begin with .... deal with it honey!!!

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  7. Recipients and PublicityAugust 9, 2010 8:18 AM

    "Anonymous said...dear rap: you are obviously not "just a concerned blogger" you seem more like a defendant in the case!!so sorry you are getting kicked in the rear end...can't stand the heat you should have never gotten in to to the kitchen to begin with .... deal with it honey!!!"

    Nope, I'm just a blogger, but what you fail to realize is that you too are a so-called "defendant" in this case just by posting a comment on this blog, Hersh puts you on his hit list. Welcome aboard. Unless of course you are on the Hersh side so it's obvious you are in trouble because your case is a joke and all you can do is stick your proverbial tongue out and make faces. How about you respond to facts and not just rely on snide remarks.

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